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To: Paul Engel who wrote (16341)	10/28/2000 3:28:41 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

All, I normally don't post rumors but this one is very interesting...from JC's BB no less.. jc-news.com <<Caution, P4 Rumor Inside... Posted by doubleD on Saturday, 28 October 2000, at 6:34 a.m. Word has it (keep in mind that this is very preliminary information) that there MAY be a couple more issues with the P4 which may delay its launch. The public has been told that there was a problem with the P4 chipset not working with certain PCI graphics cards. There is now some talk of some systems (more than a few, less than alot) failing to POST. Reason unknown. There is also a nice story of one system nearly catching fire. This is third-hand information, but my source is reliable. So there is probably at least a kernel of truth in here>> --- Oh well, we'll see...Paul said Intel has NEVER given an official P4 release date. Only Q4...

To: Paul Engel who wrote (16341)	10/28/2000 3:29:32 PM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Paul, The fact that AMD had to UP THE JUNCTION TEMPERATURE to 95 C is because the 1.2 GHz ThumperBurn WILL RUN HOTTER - aND APPROACH 95 C. It means that AMD has been doing speed work, and now have more margin on Athlons. More bad news for Intel. Scumbria

To: Paul Engel who wrote (16341)	10/28/2000 3:48:07 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

<The fact that AMD had to UP THE JUNCTION TEMPERATURE to 95 C is because the 1.2 GHz ThumperBurn WILL RUN HOTTER - aND APPROACH 95 C. AMD is just running flat out BURN SPEEDS - at a real risc to long term reliability.> I vote to ban Paul permanently from the thread. As a PhD in chemistry and former chip packaging specialist at Intel, he must know for sure that a chip does not need to run at top specified temperature, that any bigger/better heat sink could low the chip temperature to any value you want, and the chip just will have more speed room and stability margins. His statement is outrageously ridiculous and false. Either he is trying to intentionally mislead the thread, or he has retarded beyond the sanity level. In both cases he is useless and has to leave. - Ali