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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3961)	10/29/2000 10:49:02 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Gosh I DO hope you noticed that they were addressing different questions than the Grissmer study, AND that they actually thanked Grissmer and several other people involved in the 271 page study for their help on this new study. Or maybe you didn't.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3961)	10/29/2000 10:58:37 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 10042

Why look at Texas? Because Texas has been claiming an amazing improvement in education- ie: the Texas miracle. as for this: Furthermore, they seemingly criticize Texas over the divergences between TAAS and NAEP scores (NAEP being the testing system that the 271 page Grissmer report compared) Did you even read the report? What they are concerned about is that the TAAS has a ceiling on what it tests- so that a large gap remains (or is actually increasing) between minority students and whites but the TAAS doesn't pick it up. The NAEP does. That is significant because many states are hoping that testing and standards are the answer. Everyone in education is always looking for the Holy Grail. Unfortunately it doesn't look like testing all the time is it. California has begun teaching to strict standards as Texas does- I'm in the classroom, and I have a problem with teaching to tests, and testing that take a week to complete. I want to know if there's a problem in Texas. Because if there IS than maybe testing a al TAAS type tests, isn't such a great idea.