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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (3983)	10/29/2000 11:35:06 PM
From: fuzzymath	Respond to of 10042

Tonight's FuzzyMath.com Consolidated tracking poll (8490 voters): Gore 41.8%, Bush 46.2%

To: epicure who wrote (3983)	10/29/2000 11:51:52 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Whatever X... But my point is that these authors who wrote this 14 page report (reviewed by only two individuals, one in NC, and the other in CO), are seemingly invalidating the finding of the Grissmer report on NEAP testing scores nationwide, WHICH THEY REVIEWED and acceded to. It is quite easy to change the statistical output of any protocol by narrowing the focus from the general to the particular. THIS WOULD BE THE CASE WITH ANY STATE THEY APPLIED THE SAME STANDARD TO. But for them to take one year's data and claim that to be representative of a trend in Texas, or some kind of inconsistency is just incredibly biased, if not incompetent. And focusing only on Texas reeks of partisan politics. Any fool should be able to see that. The facts are the facts... Grissmer found that Texas compared VERY FAVORABLY with other states using NEAP testing results. He did not deal with TAAS or any other indiviudal tests that other states may have implemented (at least none that caught my eye as I perused his report). These people should have STUCK with the NEAP standards that Grissmer utilized, or they should have stayed silent until after the election before releasing such a narrow and poorly sampled paper. Either way... it clearly shows the need for NATIONWIDE testing standards and not a mish-mash of individual state based tests. State tests CAN be inflated. Maryland just had a situation in one of their affluent counties (montgomery) where teachers and principals were actually caught prepping their students to pass their statewide proficiency tests in order to improve their scores and be eligible for more money. And this is happening right now under the Clinton/Gore administration. There are problems with any proficiency test.. but problems can be fixed and controls enforced to prevent unscrupulous tampering with results. Regards, Ron