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To: lorne who wrote (60423)11/1/2000 7:19:24 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 116762
 
DJ Swiss SNB Gold Sales Total 5.7 Tons In 10 Days To Oct 31.
ZURICH (Dow Jones)--The Swiss National Bank said Wednesday its gold reserves fell CHF86.4 million to CHF37.43 billion in the 10-day period to Oct. 31.

Based on the SNB's quarterly valuation of gold at CHF15,245.65 a kilo, the central bank has sold around 5.7 metric tons in the latest 10-day period. That brings total gold sales to around 136.1 tons since the SNB began its gold sales May 1.
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To: lorne who wrote (60423)11/2/2000 12:55:40 AM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 116762
 
... opinion on this ? >>> Hedging destroying Aussie juniors..........."
Does this mean that Gold producers in the west ( Barrick etc. )
could suffer the same fate with a very low US$.....

Lorne,

In my opinion based on the Duck Test + Smoke Alerts from GATA,
if you remove Barrick ABX from your list, then I answer Yes.

This is not based on any good v bad or evil battle,
nor if the gold market is manipulated in a criminal manner,
but just based on the fact that Barrick ABX has in place
persons places and things that 99.999% guarantee
that its continuation and health will be Great.

Oooooooooooooopie, i forgot... Bill Murphy's GATA.

Amazing what a 100% - 99.999% = 0.001% can d:o)

Well, guess for those who think i a gata nut,
then Barrick ABX is as good as gold.

Those words,
"guess" and "think"
reminds of that 1950s heartaches song
"... a wishing and a hoping... "
means that one wants a different present in the near future.

Barrick wants no change,
especially the type GATA is working for.

Guess "... a wishing and a hoping... "
is something we all do since no one can tell the future,
but many predict the future using whats what,
so all we gotta do is decided if that whats what being presented
is reality or a "... a wishing and a hoping... " stuff.

doug



To: lorne who wrote (60423)11/2/2000 8:51:41 AM
From: Alex  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116762
 
Australian Gold Hedging Starts To Hurt Producers
By Stephen Bell
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

PERTH (Dow Jones)--The hedge books of Australian gold producers has reached "concerning proportions", raising the potential debt bill of many companies, industry analyst John Macdonald said Thursday.

Macdonald, an analyst at the stockbroker CIBC World Markets, said the Australian currency's dive towards 50 U.S. cents has pushed the hedge books further into the red over the past few months.

He estimates that the four leading Australian gold producers -- Normandy Mining Ltd. (A.NDY), Newcrest Mining Ltd. (A.NEW), Sons of Gwalia Ltd. (A.SGW) and Delta Gold Ltd. (A.DGL) -- face a total $A1.8 billion in potential liabilities from their gold and currency hedge books.

"As an industry, the numbers are beginning to mount to concerning proportions," Macdonald said in a recent research note, which was based on company disclosures up to the end of September.

"The Australian dollar has fallen further since the end of September, extending the notional liabilities," he said.

Macdonald estimates that the total bank debt of the four gold companies stands at around A$2.5 billion.

"Add in (hedging) exposures to smaller groups like Centaur (A.CTR) (minus $150 million at the end of June 30), and there may be potential for an unpredictable turn of events if any bank breaks the ranks of support in any once instance."

Macdonald told Dow Jones Newswires that gold hedging problems seem to be centred on Australian companies, with major overseas groups such as Canada's Franco Nevada Mining Corp (T.FN), Homestake Mining Co (HM), Gold Fields Ltd. (GOLD) and Harmony Gold Mining Co (O.HRM) either unhedged or running relatively small books.

The world's biggest gold producer, AngloGold (AU) of South Africa, last week revealed it has 16.5 million ounces hedged equivalent to roughly two years' production.

"AngloGold does hedge," Macdonald said. "But they are not subject to the same issues we (Australians) are. When they do hedge, they hedge in US dollars, so they are still in front."

According to AngloGold, the marked-to-market (liquidation value) of its hedge book as of September 30 was US$80.4 million.

Greg Barns, chief executive of industry lobby group the Australian Gold Council, said the latest statistics show that Australian producers are running down their hedge books, but very slowly.

"The preliminary numbers for the September quarter indicate a further decline in the hedging position of Australian producers, from 42 million ounces in the June quarter to 41 million ounces in the September quarter," he said.

"That is the second consecutive quarter of decline in hedge book positions."

Barns said Sons of Gwalia hasn't hedged any gold this year, nor has WMC Ltd (WMC) and "Normandy hasn't done anything serious". He also said that gold producers are "starting to get some benefit from the lower Australian dollar and that is reflected in the quite good profit results for the September quarter".

Barns said that Australian producers now have the "most transparent hedge book positions in the world". This follows the Council's release last month of a new hedging standard, designed to "improve the format and level of disclosure of hedging of precious metals and foreign currencies by gold producers".

asia.biz.yahoo.com