To: rudedog who wrote (37409 ) 11/3/2000 6:36:03 PM From: X Y Zebra Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865 Robert - re:"Cut your racist convictions." Europeans are a RACE now? That's pretty far fetched. On my last visit to Oracle, the meeting consisted of 3 Brits, a Frenchman, an Italian and 2 native-born US folks. Just one data point, but it kind of supports Cheryl's observation. What "RACE" would you say those people comprised? Or is it kind of hard to guess just based on national origin? You WERE joking, I hope. rudedog, I do not believe that Robert was Joking. First of all the remark was Europeons (implying Europeans are peons, peasants). Not making the reference that "Europeans" is a race. The "racists" part comes from the fact that the comment is demeaning or derogative to Europeans, that as "peons" they (as a group), are lesser than others. Perhaps a better term would have been "prejudist".... (from prejudice) or "discriminatory". The point here is that the comment of "Europeons" is the key in Robert response. That is my opinion, but I would let Robert answer for himself. For your benefit, below are the definitions of the relevant words made reference to, (see the bolded parts), and the entire paragraph of the original post to which Robert responded, which is a bit different to what you understood from Robert's response. Original paragraph:Silicon Valley is crammed FULL of Europeons. They're all here for the same reason: opportunity. I work with them, I've talked to them about this & they all have the same opinion: it's a better live & work environment here than where they live especially when it comes to income tax, which is nothing short of confiscatory in the EU. Message 14721671 Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi- Function: noun Date: 1936 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination - rac·ist /-sist also -shist/ noun or adjective ____________ Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice Pronunciation: 'pre-j&-d&s Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment -- more at JUDICIAL Date: 13th century 1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics ____ Main Entry: dis·crim·i·na·tion Pronunciation: dis-"kri-m&-'nA-sh&n Function: noun Date: 1648 1 a : the act of discriminating b : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently 2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing 3 a : the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination> ___________________ Personally, and for something totally different, I admit that I am prejudiced towards politicians and their rah, rah, hyenas.... They are all liars and idiots. "A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar."