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To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/4/2000 7:27:34 PM
From: marginmike  Respond to of 436258
 
Al Gore on Bill Clinton tell you they are enviromentalists, in their last campaighn they went into a town in Illinois(I think) and promised to remove a toxic incenertor next to a School. Al Gore is quoted as saying its pressence was Unimanginable. Gore and Clinton gets elected and nothing is done. The town sends letters, petitions, they even protest infront of campaighn headquarters of GORE. Nothing was ever done. There are plenty of examples of politicians in situations were they dont act. Gore is no better then bush.



To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/4/2000 8:21:26 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
>>the answer to federal adminstration of many of the programs you cited are national goals, uniformity of application and fairness<<

These goals don't outweigh the simple fact that the federal bureaucracy wastes money that could be spent on the poor. How much money does it take to run these programs in Washington? Why shouldn't that money go directly to poor people instead of bureaucrats? Taxes on the working poor make it impossible for them to pay for their health care. Isn't that ironic?

I don't know how old you are but I was a teenager during the Great Society. I lived in housing projects when I was a kid, and got my health care at clinics. My sister and brother were born in Charity Hospital in New Orleans. I know for a fact that states are perfectly capable of taking care of the poor.

The federal government mandates what kind of care the states will take, but it takes the taxpayers' money, keeps some, and gives some to poorer states. I think that is inequitable.

I also think that what is happening is that federal congressmen from more liberal states are telling conservative governors and state legislators how to run their government. I think that's unconstitutional. What gives them the right? The Commerce Clause? The 14th Amendment? I don't think so.

There is an anecdote told about Earl Long, Huey's brother, and Leander Perez, who was bemoaning enforced integration. Earl said to Leander, "Lee, what are you gonna do now that the feds have got the A-tomic bomb?"

States Rights has a bad name now because of segregation. Too bad, because it used to be an important part of the checks and balances. There is nothing to check the federal government from controlling anything and everything, except the Supreme Court. I just hope Justice Scalia lives for a long, long time.



To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/4/2000 9:19:03 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
>>I agree completely. Would you happen to know when this state of affair began and escalated? You might be surprised.<<

Clinton has been president for 8 years and you want to shift the blame to another administration? A-mother-mazing.



To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/4/2000 11:02:47 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
<His excuse for not covering the children as required by federal law was that the Texas legislature did not meet on a schedule that would have allowed timely implementation.
The court didn't swallow it and neither did I. As Governor and an executive he could have called an emergency session to pass the necessary legislation. I can only assume the suffering of poor children isn't an emergency in his book. Poor kids don't vote after all.>

So you really believe Bush nor the Texas legislature cares about 'poor kids'?

IMO this shows the huge gap of understanding between liberals and conservatives.... I mean do you really think that republicans are non-compasionate humans?? Would this be genetic?

IMO this get's at the root, all the other stuff about program cuts, spending veto's and all else is based here... without getting past this belief, there will be no understanding.

DAK



To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/4/2000 11:31:03 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
<Report Shows Texas Ranks 2nd Worst in Hunger. >

ROFLMAO! Did you expect Maine?

DAK



To: flatsville who wrote (33829)11/5/2000 9:16:49 AM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Clinton only signed onto Welfare Reform legislated by the Republicans only when public opinion ran strongly against his stonewalling. You might go and check the Supreme Court site to see how many cases the Democrats have been filing to try to overturn Welfare Reform.