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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (59879)	11/5/2000 7:04:23 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

<<and create universities on the scale of MIT and berkeley >> University of Illinois had one of the first Crays and has an outstanding computer program. <<then they might have traction when they tell the rest of the country that Gays don't deserve to be treated like everybody else, and we all need to teach creationism etc.>> I'm a mainstream Republican and I'm not against homosexuals, I believe there should be a civil contract they can have. But I do think they should be committed to each other. None of the last guy I humped gets my benefits. <<and we all need to teach creationism >> I got kicked out of the Lutheran church when I was 16 because I debated FOR evolution. Banned from my family and disinherited by my father. Don't give me that shit.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (59879)	11/5/2000 7:40:24 PM
From: Bernard Levy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

How much of the history of Stanford or MIT do you really know? Stanford has traditionally been a conservative bastion except briefly under Donald Kennedy. Also if you are looking for right wingers who had a major influence on the foundation of Silicon Valley, look no further than William Shockley and David Packard. Similarly, MIT had an extremely conservative (I would even say narrow) view of engineering education until WWII. It is only the embarrassment of having physicists lead the development of radar technology that prompted a major overhaul of its curricula after WWII. What exactly are they teaching at UCB? Certainly not economic history.