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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (60890)	11/11/2000 4:20:39 PM
From: jetcityrandy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Zeev, The electoral vote will go to the winner with as few as one more vote than the loser. <g> We all complain and voice our opinions, one way or the other about this national election. I don't necessarily feel sorry for those folks, not just in Florida, but other states as well, where extraordinary effort has been put forth to yield an accurate vote count. I wonder how many democratic/republican complainers would put up with the pressure and time requirements that those election workers are laboring under. Heck, our family is going to vacation in Florida next February, I hope this has been decided by then.

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (60890)	11/11/2000 4:36:02 PM
From: Jdaasoc	Respond to of 93625

Zeev: If you get a chance take a look at Infineon latest JEDEC response. swiftsolution.com john

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (60890)	11/12/2000 10:25:13 AM
From: blake_paterson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

<<I would like to send him a similar note suggesting we all let Floridians decide according to their state laws what is the best way to determine the will of the people, without suits in federal courts to stop recounting of sample ballots to determine if something might have been wrong with the electronic count.>> Message 14789467 <<I just heard a report that those punch cards (not just the butterfly affair, but all punch cards used there in 26 counties) have an error rate of 32/1000 that is 3.2% quite unacceptable, IMHO, particularly when the winner has a margin under .005%.>> I find this comment to be particularly trite coming someone who flips between posturing as a "humble, illiterate farmer" and a master of the inventing and trading universe, respected by so many who read your posts. Where have you been the past 5 elections? Please don't ask me to provide the links, for I know that you have the wherewithal to dig for the data on your own. Come on, Zeev, make me proud and produce data which proves me wrong and demonstrates (statistically significant) higher accuracy rates in prior elections. BTW, are you aware that a DEMOCRAT was responsible for the ballot in question, and that the ballots were (by law) published in the local press for public review (no citizen bothered to comment!)? Do you think for a MINUTE that the Daley machine was not aware of the fallability of this ballot? You appear to be playing the humble, illiterate farmer today... BP

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (60890)	11/12/2000 3:43:56 PM
From: J Krnjeu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Hello Zeev Had, I just heard a report that those punch cards (not just the butterfly affair, but all punch cards used there in 26 counties) have an error rate of 32/1000 that is 3.2% quite unacceptable, IMHO, particularly when the winner has a margin under .005%. This morning on one of the talk shows, someone said the manual count error rate is somewhere betwwen 5 - 10%. That is why everyone moved to machine count and also for speed. Also, I heard someone wanted to machine recount the ballots that are in doubt after they were manually recounted to compare the results. Seems only fair. Manual are known to favor the underdog that's why the democrats what to recount only the those precinits that are heavily democratic. Thank You JK