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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (5945)	11/13/2000 11:09:50 PM
From: Louis Cornell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Ron, As I said in the article, "since when does the Gore camp's concern for 'the will of the people' translate to only hand-counting Democrat counties? I guess the 'will of the people' is not the will of all the people in Florida, is it Al?" regards, Louis webcolumnists.com

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (5945)	11/13/2000 11:18:34 PM
From: Slugger	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

GOP Gains in First Round Of Recounts Monday, November 13, 2000 Recounts — both manual and machine — proceeding in some counties in Florida are favoring George W. Bush so far. But officials with the Texas governor's campaign maintain their opposition to the process regardless of who gains from it. Bush showed a net gain of 97 votes in Polk County after a weekend re-scan of ballots there, and squeezed another 21 votes out of Volusia County with 69 of 172 precincts recounted by hand there so far. Hand recounting over the weekend in Palm Beach County turned up a net gain of 39 votes for Vice President Al Gore. "It doesn't matter whether we gain or lose votes, our principle remains the same — that a hand recount without any standards is unreliable, and as we can see ... often results in chaos," Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer said. "The best course of action is to allow the existing two recounts to stand. Anything less would be so subjective that it would neither be fair nor right." As of Monday, Bush leads Gore in Florida by 388 votes, with hand recounts proceeding in two counties and on horizon in two others. A federal judge Monday morning refused the Bush campaign's request to halt the manual recount process. All this, despite word from the Florida Secretary of State that recounts in all of Florida's 67 counties should be completed by 5 p.m. Tuesday and a winner certified by Saturday after overseas absentee ballots are rolled into the totals. "The law unambiguously states when the process of counting and recounting the votes cast on Election Day must end," Harris said in a written statement distributed in Tallahassee. "For this election, that time is 5 p.m. Nov. 14, which is tomorrow." Under those constraints, Volusia County, home of the Daytona International Speedway, could be the only one county to finish its work before the deadline. Some 42 officials there began counting the 184,019 presidential ballots there Sunday and said they expected to be finished late Monday. "The count is going faster than we first expected it would. It looks like all precincts will be counted by tonight, or very early Tuesday morning at the latest," said county spokesman David Byron. Just in case, the heavily Democratic county sued for the right to complete and certify its manual count regardless of the deadline, and to bar the state from ignoring its results. Also Monday, Broward County officials said they plan to begin a hand recount of about 6,000 ballots in three precincts. If major problems are found, authorities will consider a full hand count of all precincts in the Democratic stronghold. And in Miami-Dade County, the state's largest, officials planned to meet Tuesday to consider the Democrats' request for a hand recount. Under Florida law, manual recounts are allowed if a candidate meets a post-election deadline to request them and the local election board agrees. — The Associated Press contributed to this report foxnews.com

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (5945)	11/14/2000 7:51:18 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

I told you Gore/Clinton team was in part responsible for the attack:(what good is an unloaded gun?) USS Cole Guards Told Not to Fire First Shot By Thomas E. Ricks and Steve Vogel Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, November 14, 2000; Page A01 The sailors on sentry duty aboard the USS Cole when it was bombed last month did not have ammunition in their guns and were not authorized to shoot unless fired upon, according to members of the ship's crew. Even if the sentries had recognized the threat from a small boat approaching the guided missile destroyer in a Yemeni harbor on Oct. 12, their "rules of engagement" would have prevented them from firing without first obtaining permission from the Cole's captain or another officer, the crew members said. Petty Officer John Washak recalled that shortly after the small boat blew a 40-by-40-foot hole in the destroyer's side, killing 17 sailors, he was manning an M-60 machine gun on the Cole's fantail when a second small boat approached. Washak said he pointed the machine gun directly at the boat to warn it off. But, he recalled, a senior chief petty officer ordered him to turn the gun away.(cont)