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To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (85507)11/15/2000 2:51:10 PM
From: Don Lloyd  Respond to of 132070
 
Wayne -

Some of the people counting were present at the signing of the declaration of independence.

They were the ancestors of Al Gore and they opposed it, inventing white-out in the process.

Regards, Don



To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (85507)11/15/2000 3:09:12 PM
From: Terry Maloney  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Wayne, apparently the standard is if the voter's intention can be clearly discerned, according to Fla judge this morning:

cnn.com

"After hearing arguments, Judge Jorge Larbarga of the 15th Judicial Circuit for Palm Beach County said in an oral order
that the "election process says that no vote is to be declared invalid or void if there is a clear indication of the intention of the voter."



To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (85507)11/15/2000 6:25:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Wayne,

It would indeed be better if there were universal standards for manual recounts. It would be better still if there were universal standards for modern voting equipment, so we wouldn't get into this mess in the first place.

But I find it funny to notice how the Republican are always big on local control (= no universal standard, no running into federal court), until local control is likely to result in more Democratic votes.

Anyone hearing the Republicans whine today would think that asking for a manual recount in a very tight vote was a diabolical trick that the Democrats had just invented. I have news for you, it's not new, and it's legal in Florida and many other places, including Texas.

Particularly when recounting the old-style punch cards, human readers will always be able to read some cards that the machine could not read, because the voter did not cleanly punch the card, or marked it with a pen, etc. No votes need to be invented or discerned by "mind-readers". These are Democratic districts, so most of the found votes will really be Democratic. The Republicans could have asked for recounts in Republican districts, though I understand that most of the Republican districts have newer voting machines, so they are unlikely to have as many unreadable ballots.



To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (85507)11/15/2000 7:14:46 PM
From: Skeeter Bug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
wayne, gore is suing b/c the demo districts aren't counting indentations... no standards is still too much for gore ;-)



To: Freedom Fighter who wrote (85507)11/15/2000 10:22:26 PM
From: Jeff Leader  Respond to of 132070
 
Miami Herald: Manual review of ballots may lack precision

herald.com