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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: david james who wrote (6263)	11/15/2000 10:41:35 PM
From: pezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

<<Now, we no longer can trust the process that we have had for so many years. >> That ain't it atall. Bush has a winning hand as it stands......So Baker makes up all this stuff about "Mischief" etc........Were the shoe on the other foot it twould be Bush calling for the manual recount and Gore making the "mischief" comments

To: david james who wrote (6263)	11/16/2000 12:11:31 AM
From: Dan B.	Respond to of 10042

David, Pezz, Re: "First of all If both agreed you know damn well something could be worked out." What? Buy whom? According to what law? I've been trying to tell you this...anything is possible, the candidates DO now agree on the issue, and courts are gonna decide if we have a statewide-hand count or not, which could still happen precisely BECAUSE they agree, as does the public, and the courts know it. First, you have to get the case to them, and Bush has gone the short route to quick ultimate answers, to its credit. Re: "It is interesting that the United States survived with hand counts for most of the first 200 years of the country. The founding fathers used this method of balloting the population along the appropriate efforts to ensure the fairness and accuracy of the system." Huh? Wait. No. This is patently false, as there existed no falling pre-cut chad problems 200 years ago, and there is extremely little chad problems, by the by, in Texas today, where the bulk of the ballots hand counted are marked with pencil and contain no chads what-so-ever. The pencil mark can't write-itself in due to handling as a "falling chad" creating votes. It's a truism that those machines are unbiased, to the average American, you betcha. It's also truism that humans are more accurate, and the system to check honesty is in place. I see no contradiction here. Bush is going for the State-wide hand re-count, administered federally, as quickly as possible. It may not happen, but no one is going to give Gore his counties as he wants them, IMO, or it would be a true unfair travesty. Dan B