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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2620)	11/19/2000 3:01:25 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 6710

Little speculation on matters beyond the election until the winner is apparent, but the big losers in this situation were really the "I don't care"'s, the "I'm undecided"'s, and the Third Way idiots. The various third party movements will always wax and wane in American politics, but this election has killed any and all serious third parties for the next several presidential cycles. Maybe in 2016 or 2020, we'll see another Third Way nutbag pull a decent %, but, IMO, there's now no way before then...

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2620)	11/19/2000 6:47:40 AM
From: Vendit™	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6710

Bush is handed the election and the Dems in the House and Senate are handed a conciliatory place at the table in a bi-partisan display that the parties can play nice after all. I find your general comments realistic after ignoring the rhetoric. I must point out however that Bush cannot be handed or awarded or given this election. Bush has already won the election based on election day returns, the Democrats demanded a recount in 3 Democrat counties and Bush won the election, the Democrats demanded another recount and Bush won again. The overseas ballots have now been counted and despite the 1200 military ballots being disqualified Bush now leads by nearly a thousand votes.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (2620)	11/19/2000 8:00:54 AM
From: Vendit™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6710

NOVEMBER 18, 13:54 EST Fla. Legislature May Pick Electors By JACKIE HALLIFAX Associated Press Writer TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida's Republican-controlled Legislature will ``play a role should it become necessary'' in picking the state's 25 electors, incoming House Speaker Tom Feeney said Saturday. He said federal law gives the Legislature ``the power, authority and responsibility to intervene'' if the election doesn't produce electors. Feeney said the party was exploring legal strategy to apply that idea to Florida's electoral impasse. If successful, that could give the solidly Republican Legislature power to decide the national election. With only Florida still undecided, Al Gore had 267 electoral votes to George W. Bush's 246, with 270 needed for election. Rep. Lois Frankel, House minority leader, was skeptical. ``I don't think we could get away with the Legislature picking the electors,'' the West Palm Beach Democrat said Saturday, adding she didn't know if federal law would give the Legislature such power. ``I'm sure we'll get lots of advice from lots of constitutional lawyers should it come to that,'' she said. The Florida Supreme Court blocked Secretary of State Katherine Harris from certifying the election Saturday and scheduled oral arguments for Monday. Feeney called the court's order on Friday premature and regrettable and said he would ``monitor the discord between the judicial and executive branches.'' He questioned whether the court should take a role in picking the electors: ``We're going to potentially ignore the state Supreme Court,'' he said. But, he added, ``We are in uncharted territory.'' ``We really haven't even got close to that. But goodness, if this goes on long enough, we may have to consider what our obligations are. We would hire the best constitutional lawyer we could find.'' When the Legislature convenes Tuesday for a one-day organizational session, Feeney will be sworn in as speaker. He's from Oviedo, a small town north of Orlando. The Nov. 7 election gave Republicans a 77-43 lead in the House and 25-15 margin in the state Senate. Federal law says that electors must be certified by Dec. 12. They will then meet on Dec. 18 in the states' capitals to choose the next president.