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To: Dan3 who wrote (118431)	11/19/2000 8:25:49 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "Gore won the overall popular vote by more than 250,000 votes. Bush is about to become the next president on a technicality" Dan, if Bush prevails he will win by meeting the requirements of the Constitution. The most electoral votes. If this is a technicality, then every election in the history or our country has been won on a technicality. That's what the constitution demands and that's the law. It does not require the winner be the one with the most popular votes. Furthermore, in light of what has gone on in Florida, I don't think you can say with any certainty that Gore has won the popular vote. Not unless you do a recount of the entire country, followed by a handcount (only in the highest rated Republican districts) if Bush doesn't win, with selected voting segments thrown out because they are known to be heavily Gore, just like the Military absentee ballots were thrown out, followed by endless lawsuits. If you insist Gore has won the popular vote, you seem to be willing to accept the results of the automated ballot systems in the other 49 states. Too bad Gore doesn't feel the same way. EP

To: Dan3 who wrote (118431)	11/19/2000 8:44:04 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 186894

Dan, <I think it's about 10 to 1 now that Bush will win, despite the American people having voted for Gore.> An advantage of 0.5% in the popular vote is hardly what I call a resounding mandate. No matter who ends up as president, 51% of the American voting public isn't going to be happy. <Consider for a moment how it looks from the other side> I know what it looks like from at least one guy from the other side: Message 14775906 <If the Republicans can impeach the president for having a girlfriend, then the Democrats can certainly impeach the president for not having been honestly elected.> It was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that Clinton lied about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Show me the proof showing that the Republicans rigged the election. Tenchusatsu

To: Dan3 who wrote (118431)	11/20/2000 12:13:04 AM
From: reynoso	Respond to of 186894

Dan3 - You wrote Gore won the overall popular vote by more than 250,000 votes. Bush is about to become the next president on a technicality. You are either stupid or completely ignorant of the basic law of our land - the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. was set up by our founding fathers as a REPUBLIC which elects our President by means of electors chosen by the INDIVIDUAL states. See Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution - see below: {=====================================} Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 1: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. Clause 3: The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President. (See Note 8) {=================================} There is NO LAW that prescribes the election of the President by a popular vote of all US citizens. I suggest you are either terminally stupid or so ignorant in the fundamentals of the United States that your best choice would be to either move to a new country or learn to keep your mouth shut and NOT display such unadulterated ignorance. Reynoso