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To: milo_morai who wrote (118513)	11/20/2000 2:53:51 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Milo, One thing that sealed it for me was the RC5 benchmark. In all integer performance, that should take advantage of the double clocked ALU (running at 3 GHz) Athlon beats P4 better than 2:1 Athlon 1.2 GHz 4.37 Pentium 4 1.5 GHz 1.98 anandtech.com I have to say that I expected (or was afraid of) a much much better performance. It is truly a disappointment. The only bright area is the huge bandwidth, but the processor is so weak that it doesn't know what to do with it. For an AMD shareholder, this is a very good day. A big relief. Intel has tripped up again. Now add to it the postponement (or cancelation) of Almador chipset, and I have to say that now not just Rambus, but Intel CPU design team are our friends. Joe

To: milo_morai who wrote (118513)	11/20/2000 3:24:50 AM
From: Pravin Kamdar	Respond to of 186894

Milo, The following quote from Anand's review will be the conclusion of many of the corporate buyers that Dell caters to. Dell is in big trouble. They are losing the consumer market to HP, Gateway, and Compaq by not adopting Athlon. Many ignorant consumers will buy the P4 on a megahertz basis, alone -- but corporate buyers will do their homework and decide against it. "For today's buyer, the Pentium 4 simply doesn't make sense. It's slower than the competition in just about every area, it's more expensive, it's using an interface that won't be the flagship interface in 6 - 9 months and it requires a considerable investment outside of the price of the CPU itself. Remember that you have to buy a new motherboard, new memory (if you don't get it bundled with a boxed CPU), and a new power supply/case. This is the investment that must be made in order to have a CPU that can't outperform any of today's top performers with the promise that tomorrow's Pentium 4 will be better." Pravin.

To: milo_morai who wrote (118513)	11/20/2000 4:55:55 AM
From: Joseph Pareti	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

AMDroid FUD : For today's buyer, the Pentium 4 simply doesn't make sense. It's slower than the competition in just about every area, it's more expensive, it's using an interface that won't be the flagship interface in 6 - 9 months and it requires a considerable investment outside of the price of the CPU itself. reality : Intel has focused on the key aspects of the SERVER market such as memory bandwidth, knowing that dell, cpq, ibm are not going to be fooled by some non-optimized benchmarks (possibly run on a pre-release), some being relevant for office stuff (my 386 serves that purpose pretty well). do you think server OEMs will weigh more your FUD benchmarks or the X-years + Y-months AMD will need to ship SMP ?