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To: Elmer who wrote (118663)	11/20/2000 11:36:39 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: you have to ignore facts to make this kind of a nonsense statement. Elmer, I understand your position, but you are ignoring the fact that for an $850 P4 to do as well as a $250 Athlon on the majority of software in use today requires a new (not yet existing) revision of the operating system and new (not yet existing) versions of every single application except Quake 3 and a handful of SSE optimized exes. People buy X86 CPUs to run their X86 software, that's been the secret of Intel's success for the last 20 years. Intel has produced chips that ran that software very well. But now you can either buy a P4 and then hunt down a new operating system and new versions of every single application you want to use or you can buy an Athlon and use the software you've come to know and trust. For quite a while now, the "hard part" has usually been the software, not the hardware. That's why SUN has done so well, despite (I'll be generous) limits to the hardware it sells. A great CPU will perform well with whatever software you want or need to run while a CPU that requires new versions of almost everything in order to provide better than average performance is not particularly desirable. Athlon shines with just about all available applications, P4 does not. Dan

To: Elmer who wrote (118663)	11/21/2000 1:38:27 PM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Elmer, Re: but can you show us a single benchmark that runs slower under P4 compared to P3? I haven't found any Maybe you should use other webpages except Intel.com as your trusted news source? anandtech.com (SPECviewperf) anandtech.com (RC5) aceshardware.com (Incoming) tomshardware.com (3D Studio MAx) In all benchmarks above a 1 GHz P3 clearly outperforms a 1.5 GHz P4. But I guess in future's computing graphics, decrypting, playing games and 3d modeling aren't important any more. We all will be watching running SPEC and Intel demos. Andreas