To: Joe NYC who wrote (118736 ) 11/21/2000 3:44:29 PM From: Mary Cluney Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894 Joe, <<<Please answer honestly. Pentium 4: 1) did not meet me expectations 2) met my expectations 3) exceeded my expectations>>> Get real. Most people do not have the technical expertise to make a valid judgement. Even those that are engineers in the field do not have the expertise to make those judgements at this point. Talk about pundits and small time punters, forget it. As you are probably aware, that in any complex code, there are always trade offs that have to be made. If you are an engineer, and not part of the design process and without full background information, you just can't make those assessments. You can always argue the road not taken, without knowing the full picture. Most of the engineers who make these definitive arguments on this thread are only playing with their own egos. Intel managment spent huge sums of money designing and developing the P4 - hiring the best talent that their money can buy. The management team, and ultimately Craig Barrett is responsible for this investment. To think that you know the answers, and that you could have done a better job, is pure lunacy. It is possible Intel management screwed up and did a lousy job, but to think that you know better at this point is pure unreal. Reminds of the time when Walter Alston, the baseball manager for the Los Angeles Dodgers was addressing second guessers - people who thought that if they were given the job of manager they would do a better job - he cited an example about a bunt situation - and asked the audience how many would have bunted? About half raised their hands. He said, if he made the wrong decision, half of the audience would have thought he was an idiot and could have done a better job managing. The bottom line is, you can't isolate situations and second guess. You have to assess the persons performance based on some larger base of metrics. Get the drift? Probably not. Mary