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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: pezz who wrote (7077)	11/21/2000 3:01:12 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

you lose? Congressman Says House Will Decide Presidency David M. Bresnahan Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2000 PROVO, Utah – The final vote on the next president of the United States will be made in the U.S. House of Representatives, according to a former member of the House Impeachment Committee. "It appears to me that there’s a very good possibility that the [Florida] Supreme Court will overturn the election process in Florida, and that the Congress may end up electing the next president," said Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, in an exclusive NewsMax.com interview. Cannon was critical of the hearing held by the Florida court on Monday. He said the jurists were acting improperly. "This Florida Supreme Court, who are supposed to be a bunch of impartial jurists, is grabbing the headlines by responding on their own. They issued an order staying [Secretary of State] Katherine Harris from acting. Then they held a circus for the whole world to watch as some of these relatively ignorant jurists – I thought, at least from the part I saw – asked silly questions and setup questions of the Democrat counsel," Cannon complained. He said he believes the Democrats are doing everything possible to obstruct the election process in Florida. They will stop at nothing in an effort to steal the election through vote fraud, ballot manipulation and abuse of power. "I think the point of the Democrats must be obstruction in this case to hold all of our institutions up to public ridicule and thereby weaken the influence of our institutions that keep us a great country. It’s amazing to me," said Cannon in the phone interview. Cannon has been looking into instances of voter fraud that were reported to his office. He found that 120 Florida residents who attend Brigham Young University in Utah were prevented from voting by absentee ballot because of a paperwork technicality. He said he also discovered that a Florida National Guard unit was prevented from voting. "A large unit in Florida of several hundred people were ordered out on maneuvers at the last minute, two days or so before the election. They couldn’t get absentee ballots because it was too late for that, and they couldn’t vote because they were out on maneuvers," said Cannon. He said the Democrats are very clever in their efforts to eliminate the military vote. Other reports have surfaced of military units being shipped out just before the election without warning, absentee ballots that did not arrive in time for military in foreign countries to vote, and efforts to disqualify ballots that were received. Cannon was pleased that a court decision on Monday would enable many disqualified military ballots to be counted that Democrats had previously objected to because they did not have a postmark. "It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if the College Republicans at BYU come up with 120 ballots, those people are going to vote for Bush," said Cannon. "It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the people in the military loathe this administration. They loathe Al Gore and they’re going to vote against him. "What did this administration do? Everything it could think of, everything that every liberal wacko nut could imagine, was done to keep people from voting for George Bush in Florida," said Cannon. Will the Democrats give up if the vote is certified for George W. Bush? "No. They’re not going to give up," said Cannon. He added that he is very concerned about the efforts being made by Democrats to find members of the Electoral College who can be persuaded to change their vote from Bush to Gore. "The concern here is that you might have people that are susceptible to a bribe or other kind of motivation," he explained. He said the many problems with the election will lead to more problems in the Electoral College, and Congress will decide the results of the election. "I think there’s a very good likelihood of that. It’s all obscure right now, but if you look at the various trails or threads of a path that you can come up with, frankly George W. Bush is the likely winner in virtually all those paths – including the recount now," said Cannon, who is confident that Bush will come out on top eventually. A clerk with the Congressional Research Service (CRS) confirmed to NewsMax.com that CRS has prepared documents for members of Congress who asked for guidance on the procedures in the event the election is placed in their hands. So many individually asked for the information that CRS sent the documents to every congressman. The clerk said members of Congress are acting as if it is inevitable that they will soon be voting for the next president in a very historic election. newsmax.com

To: pezz who wrote (7077)	11/21/2000 3:07:40 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Re: "No means no.......Don't it." Only if you are blind to surrounding circumstances. It is the subjective nature of hand-counting, anywhere OR everywhere, that Bush objects to. This is a reasonable position. In fact, I'm confident there is a HIGH level of agreement that these chadded ballots are poopy to hand-count. Bush recognized the unfairness of counting ONLY Gore's chosen right away- it took Gore a week to publicly recognize this by his offer, and he still isn't settled on the fairness, or he'd stop this skewed counting in lieu of statewide, and quit claiming the results of counting just his own would "put him ahead". How does that jibe with your statement, eh? Of course the leader wants to leave it alone...but... It is NOT Bush's effort to count biased counties for himself, it is Gore's. Despite Gore's offering of what he couldn't actually give, everyone can see he claims an unfairness would be fair. Sad, very sad. Dan B

To: pezz who wrote (7077)	11/21/2000 3:11:41 PM
From: AmericanVoter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

FL law allows for a hand count ONLY when there is fraud or machine failure. It does not allow for hand counting for close elections... For a close election, the law allows for a machine recount... Not a hand count. Now, to compare FL laws with TX laws, that Gov. Bush signed, is comparing apples to oranges... TX ballots are read by optical scanners, which means that there would be a marking of some sort on the ballot... and as you may very well know, a marking, even if erased, in all likelihood, will leave a trace... a punched card, a hanging chad, a dimpled chad will leave no trace... that is why Mr. Baker rejected the hand count in FL... because it leaves plenty of room for mischief... ESPECIALLY when FL law does not have provisions for a hand count for close elections. the LAW is the LAW ... and all HAVE to abide by it... not at our convenience. Oh, I must be paranoid for wanting to have FL's law upheld huh. regards amein