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To: Carl R. who wrote (144)	11/23/2000 11:52:43 PM
From: herringbone_100	Respond to of 644

<Since when is it the job of the court to determine the will of the people? > this from Message 14871968 i was surprised when i read this- is it really true that one can be categorized as a 'hard-core partisan republican' if not supportive of 'judicial activism'? i simply think of it as extreme leeriness of courts creating laws rather than interpreting them. and in that vein, i agree with you about that phrase 'will of the people' - it is scary b/c it smacks of despotism. it is alarming when a judicial body uses that phrase- no matter what party affiliation may or may not be there. this phrase grants the user the ability to supercede their authority under the cloak of righteousness. the problem is that what is righteous to one is not to another. that's why we have laws created by the legislature, no? anyways, this little blurb below was interesting... CNN.Schneider: Bush also mentioned in his remarks that this was an effort by the judicial branch in Florida to change the law, to rewrite the election law. Most Americans, I believe, respect the judiciary as serious and independent and a neutral arbiter. Hardcore partisan Republicans don't. Number one, they know this court is appointed by Democrats. Number two, they resent all judicial activism as illegitimate. They have ever since abortion rights and school prayer decisions were handed down by the courts. Anger at judicial activism is an ancient and deeply embedded conservative sentiment. Bush appealed to that in his statement, when he said that courts are rewriting the laws. That instantly touches a nerve among conservatives, just like the word "civil rights" touches a nerve among Democrats. Democrats talk about a person's civil rights being violated, you get an instantaneous response. Republicans talk about the courts rewriting the law, you get an instant emotional response. What I'm suggesting is that Republicans, including Governor Bush are pushing those buttons... buttons that are calculated to create outrage among Republicans. We saw something today I have never seen in my life: a {disturbance} among Republicans in Miami. You don't see Republicans do that very much that we should fail to notice. That's because buttons are being pushed to create outrage. I'm not saying it's all cynical. I think they are angry. But I'm saying that those feelings are deep and they are intense.

To: Carl R. who wrote (144)	11/24/2000 8:52:21 AM
From: Bosco	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 644

<ot>Hi Carl & all - as I ve pointed out in my previous post, before the ruling First, the Supreme Court ruled that Miami-Dade doesn't have to continue the recounts. This is a correct ruling, but it surprises me it was a foregone conclusion. maybe you are surprised b/c you think the court has an agenda <VBG>. However, IMHO, the court has been consistent by giving the real discretionary power to the carnvassing board, which is the sole guardian of the ballots. I ve caught up with some of the latest development also. Evidently, as it has been widely disseminated by most news media, the spontaneous protest in Miami-Dade County on Wednesday turned out to be orchestrated by the GOP operatives. I am glad that their skills they have honed to perfection in overthrowing the democratic regime in Iran back in the 50s has not gone to waste. I wonder if the late Lee Atwater is spinning in his grave right now. Could it be true? Like father; like son? I must apologize, right now, my sarcasm is overthrowing with abundance <VBG>! In that sense, I ve to retract my pov that VP Gore should throw in the towel comes Monday. At least, I am not surprised the Gore camp feels it has the right to contest the outcome, if it breaks unfavorably against the VP, since I am sure he feels dirty tricks were played on him. I suspect the dems may even rally behind him, I mean, former Gov Dukakis might be willing to swallow the Willie Horton case, I doubt the present day dems are willing to simply lie down and play dead Btw, my Thanksgiving was fabulous, but I couldn't afford turnips or eggplant anymore <VBG>! best, Bosco