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To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (35405)	11/24/2000 5:33:31 PM
From: Montecristo No.2	Respond to of 50167

Dear Jeff: It is interesting to see how the Sore/Loserman campaign denounced the Republicans' earlier appeal to the Supreme Court stating that it was a "state law issue"; yet now they are quick to file their own briefs before the Supreme Court and vow to continue doing so in their efforts to overturn the election results. Just another example of the democrats' willingness to shamelessly make statements and change positions after the fact, manufacturing the truth in an effort to achieve their goals by whatever means necessary. Lieberman's opinion carries no credibility as he also abandoned his previous positions to fit into the ticket. Instead of injecting the campaign with the integrity he publicly projected, in the end like so many others he sold his beliefs for the benefit of the "cause". Best, Mc2

To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (35405)	11/24/2000 6:39:35 PM
From: James Strauss	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 50167

Democracy... Stronger Than Ever... *********************************** Jeff: Perhaps history will give us a clearer view of what really took place during this presidential election... Both candidates wound up in a virtual tie... Al Gore did call George Bush to concede the night of the election when he thought he lost... Only when the race tightened up in Florida and questions about large numbers of votes not being counted, did Gore decide to see what the real intent of the Florida voters were... Forget about the Butterfly Ballot in Palm Beach County... If people can't follow instructions, too bad for them... But when a voting machine does not completely punch a chad through because of a defect, don't blame the voter... The manufacturer has already said that there is a problem with the first column strike plates where the presidential candidates are... As a result of this some chads don't get fully punched through... Should we deny these voters the right to have their votes counted because of a voting machine malfunction? I don't think so... There are votes for Gore and Bush sitting in piles by the thousands where the voter intent was thwarted by a machine... If we really want to see who won an election, we should count all the votes... Including machine error votes and Military votes that are properly dated and signed and where the voter actually requested an absentee ballot... The postmark requirement should not be applied to the Military, but should be required by civilians overseas... We are seeing Democracy in action... With all the jokes, this disagreement about the vote is being handled peacefully, except for two Gore supporters that were punched by some Bush supporters in Miami... Our Democracy is stronger than any two pretenders to the throne, or any thugs using third world intimidation tactics... Jim

To: Jeff Jordan who wrote (35405)	11/25/2000 1:08:19 PM
From: PMG	Respond to of 50167

This post goes not to Jeff Jordan, I'm just addressing the topic. When demonstrations are held in a manner that they actually intimidate or scare other people this has nothing to do anymore with the right of free speech. Astonishing what extremism can arise in a two-party system that is backed 50/50 by the population. Every American citizen should admit that the election went out equally from the votes. So none of both parties is more legitimate than the other. If it is said, that one side steals the other sides rights, this is dangerous extremist nonsense because it does of course not address the candidates and their team only. It addresses the other 50% of the voters. The extremist views expressed all over SI show a great disrespect for the other 50% of Americans be it the Republicans or be it the Democrats. Poor picture of American democracy. The candidates' tricks may be dirty but it's the followers who make it happen! And BTW YOU elected your candidates! This political war is not only the war beetween Bush and Gore. It's a political war among the Americans based on intolerance and disrespect for the neighbour. Find a way to label Reps and Dems in daily life and guess what parallels you can draw then... Regards PMG