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To: Jill who wrote (19390)	11/25/2000 3:44:20 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

He starts by framing the question and the supposed designer to suit his answer: "The question that seems to me to be worth answering, and perhaps not impossible to answer, is whether the universe shows signs of having been designed by a deity more or less like those of traditional monotheistic religions—not necessarily a figure from the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, but at least some sort of personality, some intelligence, who created the universe and has some special concern with life, in particular with human life. I expect that this is not the idea of a designer held by many here. You may tell me that you are thinking of something much more abstract, some cosmic spirit of order and harmony, as Einstein did. You are certainly free to think that way, but then I don't know why you use words like "designer" or "God," except perhaps as a form of protective coloration."

To: Jill who wrote (19390)	11/25/2000 3:59:56 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 65232

Anyone with a Yahoo id can create a Yahoo "club" on any topic they wish: clubs.yahoo.com fr.clubs.yahoo.com clubs.yahoo.com clubs.yahoo.com A club can be private or public, depending on the wishes of the founders and the members. Anyone with a Yahoo id can read or join a public club. But the founders have power to delete any posts or members they deem undesirable. A private club, on the other hand, is completely "invisible" to anyone who is not a member, and its membership is by invitation only. Bland is a member of several different kinds of clubs on Yahoo (including even a "John Fogerty" club!), nearly all of them public. But he is also a member (and co-founder) of a private club that no one can read or post to other than existing members, and no one is normally invited to join without approval of all the founders and members of the club.