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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Qone0 who wrote (89857)11/27/2000 11:16:02 AM
From: kvkkc1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
If you think US politics will ever be free from big money, you're dreamin'.knc



To: Qone0 who wrote (89857)11/27/2000 11:16:18 AM
From: Enam Luf  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
"This opens the door for a real centered 3 rd party"

With the right candidate, I think it would work. But probably wishful thinking, the powers that be are likely too entrenched.



To: Qone0 who wrote (89857)11/27/2000 11:27:15 AM
From: PartyTime  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
>>>Are you in denial? All Gore is doing now is trying to save face. The Democratic FLSC set the deadline. The FL secratarty of State upheld it.<<<

The Florida Supreme Court, were its ruling to have a title, ruled the intent and right of the individual voter is supreme. This test hasn't yet played out. In fact, the Court could even reverse itself if it deemed it necessary to preserve this. You're not denying that, are you?

>>>If Gore does win any county court cases the FL Republican legislature will step in and stop that in its tracks.<<<

Not so fast. Those legislators aren't all going to get ambassador appointments like Ambassador-elect Katherine Harris will. Those legislators will have to stand for reelection. They'll be tremendous pressure on that body to assign equal split of Florida's electors, should this issue come into focus. Besides, you win elections on votes and not on legislation. Indeed, Florida courts are only trying to preserve the sanctity of voter rights, and are not interested in legislating a scenario assigning partisan victory. The Florida Republican-dominated legislature if it gives the nod to Bush, would easily become a Florida Democrat-dominated legislature were it to do what you suggest. You really think that many GOPwinger state reps will be so willing to fall on their own sword? If the Florida legislature does get involved, it'd be excruciatingly fair to assign 12 electors to Bush; 12 to Gore and one to Nader. And statewide pressure will mount for this, if the Florida legislature jumps in.

>>>Do you forget that the legislature picks the electors?<<<

Read my above paragraph again!

>>>This has gone way past the point of either canidate carring about just who FL voted for.<<<

Not so.

>>>It`s about power now and the Republicans hold all the cards.<<<

Bush's stacked deck won't hold up in the courts as the power of Ambassador-elect Harris fades.

>>>Gore pushed it to this point by only wanting a recount in the Democratic counties. And refusing to count military votes.<<<

Contrary to GOPwinger spin, all Gore did was request ONE hand recount in four Florida counties. This request was within the 72-hour specified time limit and allowable under Florida law. Bush declined to seek recounts within the 72-hour period in Republican-dominated counties, even though some of his minions and functionaries managed to persuade six Repubublican-dominated counties to do some variation of a hand recount.

A candidate has a right to request a recount, especially in a close election. Once the official state counting had been completed, Gore found himself 327 votes short out of six million cast. Honorably, and within the confines of Florida law, Gore requested ONE recount.

Now, you highlight the Florida legislature. Well, the Florida legislature cannot pass a law for which compliance is a test impossible to meet. Therefore, sufficient time need be provided for a candidate to have a fair and reasonable recount. Ambassador-elect arbitarily impeded this process. Again, the Florida Supreme Court, ultimately, will come down on the side of the Florida voters.

Frankly speaking, this ain't over yet! Besides, why would Bush want to become president without having won the national popular vote and without having fairly won the electoral college vote? Doesn't this question bother some of you?



To: Qone0 who wrote (89857)11/27/2000 11:47:57 AM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
You are in denial and celebrating too early. If the GOP held all the cards they would have already withdrawn their US SUpreme Court action. They know there's at least another inning to play here. Why deny that? You seem knowledgeable enough. Harris may end up hurting Bush more than helping him. She smacks of unfairness from beginning to end. And to call the Fla Supreme Court Democrats is not accurate. I'm sure they would object strongly. It's their job to be non-partisan. Are the US Supreme Court judges Republicans? They'd better not be.