Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Idea Of The Day -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Juli who wrote (35421)	11/27/2000 2:31:32 PM
From: cog	Respond to of 50167

Juli, The disgrace is that Gore loves power more than he loves his country. He has stretched the law for his own purposes just as many guilty criminals stretch our laws and are often not convicted of crimes they have committed. The letter of the law is one thing and the purpose behind it is something else. The liberal media has blinded the eyes of many people so they can no longer recognize TRUTH. cog

To: Juli who wrote (35421)	11/27/2000 2:36:16 PM
From: sandeep	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

OT: Juli and Strauss, Gore is not trying to steal the elections. However, we are still in an age where vote counting is not a precise science. I think that once one gets into hand counting, it becomes unfair to one of the sides. I suggest that we stop this nonsense and declare Bush the winner this time. HOWEVER, next time onwards, let's shift to handwritten (block capital - just like many computer-readable forms) ballots for the federal elections from next time onwards. This will take the guesswork out of this. I hope that we can agree that reading ballots by humans to try to figure out who the voter has voted for is patently unfair to both sides. Too much human interpretation comes into play for it to be completely fair and accurate.

To: Juli who wrote (35421)	11/27/2000 3:05:03 PM
From: OX	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

>>> Republicans rioted in Dade County to the point where workers had to be escorted in and out by the police and George Bush, to my knowledge, has never made a public statement condemning such actions. <<< someone was on MSNBC last night (didn't catch her name or title), said she was there at M-Dade room where the MD canvassing officials tossed out the GOP observers, who, as she said, has the legal right to be in the room where the counts are ongoing. they were the ones "demonstrating" to get back in the room. there's so much rhetoric and partisan going on it's tough to know who's telling the whole/full/complete truth. which is why handcounting ballots meant to be machine counted is so fraught w/ disaster. --- Jim, never will the process be "idiot proof"... no such thing. but using modern technology can help immensely :-)

To: Juli who wrote (35421)	11/30/2000 10:51:27 AM
From: James Strauss	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50167

In 1961 a study was done and the study concluded that the punch card ballots had too many errors to be used in elections. Almost forty years later nothing has been done. The manufacturer states only that they are 99% accurate. This is simply not accurate enough to decide a close election. Juli: During a news conference today it was pointed out that punch card ballots reject 350% more ballots than optical scan ballots... This is not just opinions but actual data from the state of Florida... Just because a punch card goes through a machine but doesn't mean that all the data on the card has been tallied... The manufacturer of the voting machine states that 1% error is acceptable... It's not acceptable in an election that's decided by less than 1/2%... That's what we have now... Just because a punch card goes through a machine twice doesn't mean it's accurately read... Especially when it reads all the other lines except the presidential line... To accurately count means counting what's there... Running a punch card through a machine 100 times without it picking up the vote is not counting that vote... It's simply running a punch card through the machine... An analogy to this is putting a dollar bill in a vending machine... Sometimes the machine doesn't recognize the dollar bill and spits it out... Does that mean you never put in a real dollar? No... It just means that the machine didn't recognize the dollar... The same thing is happening with the under votes... For some reason the machines are not recognizing the votes in the presidential line... So, saying that the vote was counted is inaccurate... A mechanical attempt was made to count it... The attempt failed... Therefore, Florida law allows for human intervention (hand counts)... This is not a Democratic or Republican issue... It's an American Constitutional issue... If these under votes are not aloud to be counted, there will be a cloud hanging over our Constitution and how other countries perceive us... Jim