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To: Michael Ohlendorf who wrote (20816)11/28/2000 7:41:38 AM
From: aburnerRespond to of 275872
 
Michael,

a few thoughts from me in no particular order:

- re only 1.4mio Athlons in Q3, I thought it was 2.2mio?: you missed the 0.6 million Slot-A Athlons
- the average Joe Taxpayer wants a cheap PC and thus will buy a Duron so AMD needs to produce more of them than Athlons
- Durons will replace lower priced K6-X
- AMD will be able to at least keep ASPs at a level with upcoming cheaper mainboards based on integrated chipsets from VIA (see the next entry on xbit-labs: xbitlabs.com and SiS
- Durons are manufactured in Fab 25 in Austin, so this won't hinder the ramp of Athlon production in Dresden
- I don't think 0.13 production lines will need 50% of Dresden fab space initially
- re Dresden is yielding very poorly: Remember the line "80% of Dresden is 1 GHz+"? ;)
- Durons are necessary to fight Celerons, not P4
- xbit provided no data for Q2,3,4 2001; if AMD according to that table indeed manages to sell more CPUs in Q1 (where sales are usually down) than in Q4 I'd be very pleased

ABurner



To: Michael Ohlendorf who wrote (20816)11/28/2000 9:08:02 AM
From: Andrew ShihRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Assuming the following:

Q3
ASP for Athlons = $180
ASP for Durons = $60
ASP for K6 = $50

Q4
ASP for Athlons = $175
ASP for Durons = $60
ASP for K6 = $45

Q1
ASP for Athlons = $175
ASP for Durons = $60
ASP for K6 = $40

Plugging in the numbers from xbit gives:

Q Sales Rev ASP
Q3 6.9 621 $90
Q4 9 813 $90.3
Q1 9.2 842 $91.6

From Q4 to Q1, 1.5 million K6 are replaced by Durons.
That helps to keep ASPs high.

-Andrew



To: Michael Ohlendorf who wrote (20816)11/28/2000 9:16:52 AM
From: Dan3Respond to of 275872
 
Re: Did you see the AMD processors production number table

Looks like Duron is being positioned against P3 while Athlon is positioned against P4.

As long as this is done by raising Duron ASPs (not hard to do if motherboard prices drop by $30 to $50 next quarter) it seems like a reasonable strategy.

Intel will be trying to position P3 against Athlon, so AMD must not flood the market with Athlons and dilute the brand.

Profits will grow more if the prices of all chips they sell rise by $10 than if they sell 20% more high end chips all at 20% lower prices.

And don't forget that this is the quarter that will take the biggest hit from 2 Durons replacing 3 K6s in the production line. Q1 (with its traditionally slow sales) is a good time to make this transition. Going forward, we will see a reverse effect as 1 P4 replaces 3 P3s.

Dan



To: Michael Ohlendorf who wrote (20816)11/28/2000 9:19:41 AM
From: niceguy767Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Michael:

Think marketshare, over and over and over...Q4 target is 9 million and Q1 (typically quieter than Q4)is 9.2 million, which if successful bodes well for 28 million in Y2000 and 40 million in y2001...

The market is dictating what AMD produces and its calling for heavy weighting of Durons by the looks of things...In the table you'll notice that the increase in Durons in Q1 is offset by the decrease in K6's...That can only help ASP...As well, it won't be surprising if the ASP gap between comparable INTC/AMD processors narrows as AMD's market foothold continues to grow, and any narrowing of the gap is likely to benefit AMD ASP's particularly if INTC is able to hold their line...

The key is marketshare defined by 28 million in Y2001 and 40 million in Y2001 (up from 18.8 million in Y1999)...AMD is well positioned to meet these targets...In another market, such positive performance would be more warmly rewarded than with a $19 price!!!



To: Michael Ohlendorf who wrote (20816)11/28/2000 1:30:24 PM
From: Joe NYCRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Michael,

I don't know about Q1, but I expect the more Athlons relative to Durons in Q4 than the table suggests. I think Athlons will be > 3 million, matching Dresden ramp.

As far as half of the Dresden fab to be re-equipped for .13u, the reality is that half of the fab remains to be equipped.

Joe