To: jlallen who wrote (91613 ) 11/28/2000 11:48:40 AM From: PartyTime Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 >>>The votes WERE counted and then recounted.<<< Nope. That's just the Republican pat line. There was an election, state-mandated machine recount, Bush-requested machine recount and Gore has not yet had his request fulfilled for a hand recount. Did Bush request his machine recount in order to send a parade of GOPwinger pundits on national television to proclaim, as you have just done, that there's been recount after recount and let's get it over with? This may be good GOPwinger public relations. But still it's public relations which doesn't match well with Florida law. >>>There's no need for a subjective hand recount but several of those were done as well.<<< Yes, there is a need. Florida law clearly states a candidate has a right to request a hand recount in particular specified counties if done within 72 hours. Gore did this. He has yet to get his request honored. Incidentally, there were variations of hand recounts conducted is six Florida Republican-dominated counties. Was this done privately, in consultation with Bush campaign functoinaries or otherwise? >>>Enough's enough.<<< Enough will be enough ONLY when ALL the votes Gore requested to be hand counted are, in fact, hand counted. >>>Even with the Florida Supremes rewriting the laws the dem controlled canvassing boards either couldn't or wouldn't get the job done by the mandated deadline. Gore loses. End of story.<<< The Florida court didn't rewrite the law. That's a distortion on your part. The Florida Supreme had to interpret a conflict from faulty legislation. Originally the statute read "shall." Subsequent language into the statute included the term "may." This provides discretion to the secretary of state. Why is discretion necessary? Because the statutes also provide for a candidate to request a hand recount within 72 hours following the election, time must be provided for those recounts. No county requested by Gore, within the existing Florida statutes, for a hand recount has had a fair environment by which to function in the recount process. This has been due to the lack of guidance from Harris, the GOP-controlled state election board, a retinue of GOPside attorneys objecting to everything instilling every possible delay and impedment possible, together with organized and paid intimidation of votings charging forward in canvassing committee administrative offices. Conclusion: The Supreme Court, in essence, ruled the right to vote and to have that vote counted is supreme and reconciled the conflict in the Florida statutes by combining the statute allowing for discretion, i.e., "may" with the statute allowing for a candidate's right to a hand recount in specified counties. The problem for you folks, is the candidate just happens to be named Gore, he's running for president and that he's a Democrat. Had the candidate in this position been named Bush, you'd have no problem at all in wanting for the hand recount as prescribed by Florida law.