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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Vendit™ who wrote (3833)11/28/2000 8:21:04 PM
From: Steve K  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6710
 
It will be interesting to watch. I actually think the S/C will not over turn the state in this matter FWIW.

The bottom line is that Bush is asking the S/C to tell him whether he won by 509 votes or did he win by 930 votes.


I think that the US SC will overturn the Fl SC. I think they will do so to prevent judicial legislation in future elections. Just my 2 cents.



To: Vendit™ who wrote (3833)11/28/2000 8:22:22 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6710
 
Gore Fiddles, while the Stock Market Burns...Look at this article...Looks like Gore and Team only like Polls when the Polls like them.....Does anyone know 1) the income levels for all the counties in FL, and 2) why these Democratic strongholds didn't repair their machines if in fact they weren't working correctly....

Gore also said in the article below.....
He said he was
contesting the tally in Florida's heavily Democratic Miami-Dade county –
and two others – but not Republican-leaning areas because that's where
the counting mistakes were concentrated.

"One thing to remember is that the old and cheap, outdated machinery is
usually found in areas with populations that are of lower income,
minorities, seniors on fixed incomes," Gore said.

washingtonpost.com

Gore Faces Emotional Election Saga

By Sandra Sobieraj
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2000; 6:43 p.m. EST

WASHINGTON –– For Al Gore, the daily roulette wheel of
election-saga emotion seemed to teeter Tuesday on the line separating
red
from black.

Publicly, the vice president showed a steely ire as he sought to place
blame for the drawn-out presidential election in George W. Bush's lap.

Gore called a news conference – a rare event – on the lawn of the vice
presidential residence. He rapped Bush for rejecting his proposed
expedited schedule for resolving his court challenge of the Florida
presidential vote.

Gore fumed that the result would be "two weeks of additional court
proceedings and additional hearings.

"I believe this is a time to count every vote and not to run out the clock.
This is not a time for delay, obstruction and procedural roadblocks." He
noted pointedly that Bush was the first to file lawsuits over the Nov. 7
balloting.

But some of Gore's closest associates said he privately battles frustration
and dread that time will run out before his arguments against the
accuracy
of Florida's count are fully heard and weighed in court.

One person who has been with Gore as he oversees legal and political
strategy from his mansion within the gated Naval Observatory described
the senator's son and career politician as "a lost soul" consumed by the
struggle for his political future.

Gore, a longtime Washington loner who does not schmooze, has
strained
at times to project a sociable geniality.

He and running mate Joseph Lieberman and their wives had lunch
Monday at a restaurant popular with tourists. The week before, they
double-dated over margaritas.

Other times, he tries to show a businesslike confidence that he has an
administration to assemble.

Gore extended Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers an unusual
last-minute invitation to lunch on Tuesday, inviting news cameras in for
just
the slice of time between the pouring of the iced tea and the serving of
the
hamburgers.

Gore is widely expected to ask Summers to stay on in any Gore
administration. But after setting up the Cabinet-making image, he
contradicted it.

It was only lunch and a chitchat on the economy with "a close friend and
close adviser," he said. "I don't think it's right for me to be offering
people
jobs."

Heartened by election night numbers that showed he won the popular
vote
nationally by some 200,000 votes, Gore has become emboldened as
that
margin has grown to exceed 300,000 votes. He believes those numbers
give his contest legitimacy, said another close adviser, also speaking on
condition of anonymity.

The adviser said Gore is flabbergasted that Americans show "no outrage
over an election being stolen" in Florida.

Instead, several polls suggested Monday that people want the ordeal to
end and Gore to concede.

But Gore said Tuesday: "I'm quite sure that the polls don't matter in this,
because it's a legal question."


Hours later, an NBC poll, the first to measure reaction to Gore's
televised
speech Monday night defending his vote challenge, offered a mood tonic:
The country was evenly split on whether Gore should give up or fight
on.

He squinted into the sun to field other questions. He said he was
contesting the tally in Florida's heavily Democratic Miami-Dade county –
and two others – but not Republican-leaning areas because that's where
the counting mistakes were concentrated.

"One thing to remember is that the old and cheap, outdated machinery is
usually found in areas with populations that are of lower income,
minorities, seniors on fixed incomes," Gore said.


He declined to weigh in on the Rev. Jesse Jackson's contention that
black
Florida voters were intimidated in violation of the Civil Rights Act.

The last question Gore took: "Are you going to win?"

"I hope so," he said.
washingtonpost.com