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To: marcos who wrote (511)11/29/2000 1:33:00 AM
From: Lino...  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37571
 
The GST was implemented for the sole purpose of paying down the debt....but all that cash was intoxicating and, like any good addiction, created a craving for more of the same.
A carbon tax would end up in general revenues, as the GST did, and would then be used to fund some new utopian social program structured to drum up a new dependence on govt.
Then a new tax would be needed....then a new program....shit, now I'm getting dizzy



To: marcos who wrote (511)11/29/2000 1:36:17 AM
From: average joe  Respond to of 37571
 
Marcos Really!!!! There is a + 50% plus tax on gas at the pump right now. Where does that money go? Where would the carbon tax go. Remember when they tried to tax lottery tickets? It is all just a tax grab.

I wonder what they will do when we have hydrogen cars. How will they tax tap water. Consumption taxes are one thing but we are addicted to oil. How is the government going to treat that addiction. Taxing it is just taking more money out of your pocket and putting it in the hand of the professional victim down the street who can't or won't earn it for himself.

Ayn Rand suggested a revolution of the mind. There are ways to make governments capitulate with just a click of your mouse. The things they fear are a weapon to be used against them.



To: marcos who wrote (511)11/29/2000 2:16:45 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37571
 
Hi marcos,

As long as they tax us and not the oil/gas producers. I'm 60% OIL/GAS.

Not that I'm self serving or anything LOL. But when I hear NEP I cringe.

regards
Kastel



To: marcos who wrote (511)11/30/2000 2:46:14 PM
From: teevee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37571
 
Marcos,

The problem with a carbon tax, is that the government's voter base in Torontario would shoulder most of the burden. With looming electrical power shortages and natural gas shortages, the Liberals in Torontario will soon be freezing in the dark. It won't take long for Torontarians to express their outrage at the increase in their utility bills, and the erosion of their disposable income. This will result in a cry for price controls and or nationalizing the power utility and and oil and gas assets for the public interest. Now that Cretein has absolute power, who knows what edicts he will issue in order to placate his eastern power base? When one considers the looming recession to follow the implosion of the high tech bubble economy, and the resultant dramatic decrease in tax revenue to Ottawa, there will be immense pressure on the Federal Liberal government to be seen to be taking stern pro-active measures in the public and national(Torontario's) interest. I can only hope that western provincial governments will have the backbone to answer Federal Liberal government edicts by stopping coal and uranium shipments to Ontario power plants, and turning off the gas and oil pipelines.