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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (96336)	11/30/2000 7:03:50 PM
From: SecularBull	Respond to of 769667

No, the Government is supposed to make success happen. LoF

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (96336)	11/30/2000 7:40:04 PM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

Re: "It's simply a matter of desire." I remember Newt Gingrich saying once why should we pay welfare to an able-bodied man in his 20s who lives a block from a public library? To some extent that way of thinking is valid. On the other hand, it tends to be over-simplistic. For instance, I never could have become, say, a chemical engineer, no matter how much I would have desired to become one. I fared poorly in subjects like chemistry and calculus. Nor could I have ever become even an average singer. I can't carry a tune in a bucket, although I love classical music, especially good choral music. To a certain extent, similar is true when we look at certain young people in our society. They have grown up w/o a stable family environment, w/o a father in the home, with a parent who did not value education, w/o a strong work ethic. Some people simply have no foundation for learning in a school setting or working a steady job. By the time we tell this teen-ager to "lift himself up, work hard, etc." it usually is too late. I don't know what the answer is, but I suspect it partially lies in early childhood development centers and similar childhood social programs ... which cost money.

To: Broken_Clock who wrote (96336)	11/30/2000 7:49:49 PM
From: Dr. Voodoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I only partially agree with you. Many of the immigrants you refer to are recruited from abroad. These people came here with an above average education, were awarded green cards and citizenship by virtue of their own hard work and the help of their sponsors. Many of the people you refer to as 'boat people' were among the best and brightest from the countries they lived in. They already had a work ethic and a means of support, they just did not have the wealth that our entrepreneurs have acquired.