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To: PartyTime who wrote (98138)	12/2/2000 1:17:02 AM
From: maverick61	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

partytime - you are once again wrong - you said "Maverick Ellen clearly cited a Florida law that, in fact, allows Gore a right to a Full Manual Recount. You can't deny that. Also, once it's shown via the sample that the difference could effect the outcome of the election that manual recount must happen" I have proven that this is indeed NOT FLORIDA LAW. Message 14927605 (5) If the manual recount indicates an error in the vote tabulation which could affect the outcome of the election, the county canvassing board shall: (a) Correct the error and recount the remaining precincts with the vote tabulation system; OR (b) Request the Department of State to verify the tabulation software; OR (c) Manually recount all ballots. --------------------- Just what I said - where do you see in there the manual recount is REQUIRED. Its 1 of 3 OPTIONS. OPTION A was already DONE AND COMPLETED There is absolutely NO REQUIREMENT for a manual recount. It is simply an option that the canvassing board could choose.

To: PartyTime who wrote (98138)	12/2/2000 1:21:32 AM
From: maverick61	Respond to of 769667

Partytime - and surprise, surprise - you are WRONG yet again; You said "Were the bulk of those 10,000 undervotes votes of citizens not wishing to participate in the presidential election? " I already have proven that 1% of Miami-Dade voters did not vote for President in exit polls. Message 14929776 that accounts for at least 6,500 of the 10,000. so, YES - THE BULK OF THE 10000 was citizens NOT INTERESTED in particiapting in the Presidential Election

To: PartyTime who wrote (98138)	12/2/2000 1:31:07 AM
From: Ellen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

a Florida law that, in fact, allows Gore a right to a Full Manual Recount. You can't deny that. Also, once it's shown via the sample that the difference could effect the outcome of the election that manual recount must happen. There's Maverick's theory/extrapolation and your #'s - Nonvotes, undervotes, for the presidence with Florida's optical scanners showed 3 in 1,000. In Palm Beach County it was 22 in 1,000. On average, throughout 48 counties statistically studied in Florida (see 11/26 Boston Sunday Globe, p.A-31), there were 15 per 1,000. Some of those are going to be 'no vote made for President' at all but some will be discernable votes. Unless they are actually counted we can't know... I'm gonna get heat for this I bet <G>, but why can't they just count the darn things? Then we would know.

To: PartyTime who wrote (98138)	12/2/2000 3:57:07 AM
From: Dan B.	Respond to of 769667

I don't understand how folks cannot get fairness into their heads, Re: "If all four counties counted the dimpled ballots in a fair and expeditious manner, Gore would be thousands of votes ahead of Bush." Which again I remind, wouldn't prove a thing about the statewide vote. Not unless we count all the chadded counties this way, including those in Bush won territory, would we maintain a fair count- a fair count being a constitutional necessity. By the by, Volusia county doesn't use chadded ballots, they have marked cards there. Dan B