To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8363 ) 12/4/2000 10:43:17 AM From: Northern Marlin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10042 Nadine, In your post #8336 you wrote:Turns out, the majority of voting population using the old punch card machines, with their 2% error rates, were in Democratic areas. The majority of the voting population using the new scanning machines, with a 0.3% error rate, were in Republican areas. I asked you to provide your sources of information for these two statements because I already know you will be unsuccessful. Here's a hint: Try to find documentation for your claim that punch card machines had an average 2% error rate. Also from your post #8336 you wrote:Therefore a manual recount, which would find missed votes, would benefit Gore more than Bush. This is assuming no bias, and no guessing at dimpled chads. I asked you from what premise you drew that conclusion, and you replied:Since most of the punch card ballots were in Democratic areas, naturally Gore would have an edge in the recounts, even without bending over backwards to read dimpled chads. You still have not made an argument why Gore would receive more votes in a manual recount in counties where he got the majority of the votes in the original count. Here's a case in point: Miami-Dade stopped their manual recount. Their procedure for counting was to begin with precinct #1 and take them in numerical order. It's my recollection from reports that I heard or read that the first precincts examined were known to be Gore strongholds. I also recall that it was reported that the recount was stopped before counting the Cuban precincts, thought to be pro-Bush. If you're not familiar with these reports, and it's important to you, I'll attempt to find links for you. In post #8364 you responded to the facts I presented about the butterfly ballot with the following:The butterfly ballot question is different. My conclusion is that when 3400 voted for Buchanan in a county where he expected to get 400 votes, the confusion wasn't invented by telemarketers. I submit to you that you have not arrived at a conclusion based on known facts and logic, but rather it is your wish, your hope, your opinion. And as long as you identify it as such I respect it. Phil