To: tero kuittinen who wrote (143 ) 12/4/2000 3:05:27 PM From: Eric L Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9255 Tero, << You think the quad-modes of AT&T are actually selling?? >> I actually do. I see a lot of them and I see people (businessmen) actually using them, particularly the Mitsubishi. Actually reading e-mail (not necessarrily responding). This despite very limited CDPD coverage. When queried they say they like the service. Amazes me. << You're hotter than Lynette >> She's better (looking) <g>, and she called the AT&T shot. I am waiting to here what Gilder has to say. << Sprint was still ahead of AT&T in sub addition growth and had a lower churn rate. The positions flipped spookily just after Sprint launched its mobile internet drive. It could be a coincidence, though. >> Coincidence, IMO, relative to data. AWS is much maligned for capacity. TDMA is blamed (thats not all wrong). Really their problems were more AMPS, capacity, build out related, and their Digital One Rate plan was too successful, too fast. They have been fixing things in the background. Less fast busys and less dropped calls. Still not in Verizon's class though. Meantime Sprint PCS keeps getting better but coverage not in a league with Verizon or AWS for the business traveller. Leads to churn. That is my take. << It does look like Samsung and Kyocera plummeted in US handset market share just after they had introduced an all-WAP CDMA line-up. Another coincidence? I don't know; there could be a trend here. And I don't think it's related to WAP; more likely to the user experience of circuit-switched mobile data. >> Not sure either. I know Kyocera has limited selection at Verizon. New tri-mode is VERY plastic. My local Verizon outlet pushing Motorola still, and the Audiovox CDM 9000 (which I use and rate 'fair" with good features and exceptional battery life but lousy accessories.). When the new non-wap Nokia came in they were pushing it. Last week they were not, commenting to customers it did not do data, and when I queried a rep about customer feedback he just shrugged. Interesting thing here (US), is nobody (consumers or sales reps) use the term WAP. << more likely to the user experience of circuit-switched mobile data >> Yes. That's part of it, but the MMI just not well suited to data yet. Too many key strokes on too small a display for satisfaction, IMO. - Eric -