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To: Charles R who wrote (21685)12/6/2000 2:57:19 PM
From: Dan3Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Re: Flawed logic. New process is almost always brought-up on established products.

I'm pessimistic about P4. Even so, I expect that it should be possible to consider it an established product a year after its introduction.

Re: There are also some indications that the lack of low K SOI may doom Intel's first iteration of .13 to irrelevance. What indications are these?

IBM, the only company with .13 and SOI experience, has stated it publicly and offers two .13 processes to its foundry customers: A low performance non-SOI process and a high performance SOI process.

Re: For all of 2000, AMD did better on chips and terribly on the platform. The net result was that AMD lost a huge lead. AMD gotto do better in 2001 to continue to make any significant gains.

Agreed. But I really think that AMD's DDR strategy is looking very good at this point - much, much better than Intel's Rambus strategy.

Regards,

Dan



To: Charles R who wrote (21685)12/6/2000 9:49:22 PM
From: fyodor_Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Chuck: Intel has a manufacturable 0.13 NOW although it is currently going through exhaustive qualification, AMD doesn't. There is a 6 month lag or more.

I'm not convinced it's that long. There was a quote from some AMD guy a while back (a month ago?) that AMD would be starting .13mu production qualification this year.

-fyo