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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: cosmicforce who wrote (4216)12/6/2000 3:33:11 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931
 
Cos, I was just reiterating what Paul said in First Corinthians 15:

Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.
After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. (died)
Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,
and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Further and more to the point;

But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.
And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised.
For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.
And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost.
If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

As you can see the resurrection is pretty important. Logically of course you are right. Being wrong about this doesn't automatically make everything the bible says invalid. However if one is wrong about the resurrection the rest of the stuff is just plain irrelevant



To: cosmicforce who wrote (4216)12/6/2000 7:46:14 PM
From: E  Respond to of 28931
 
Greg, I find myself in the odd position of defending the truth of the bible here.

You said:
If Jesus didn't rise physically from the dead then every other claim that Christians make is
false

This is correctly identified as a False Dichotomy.


Oh, cosmic, don't be so contrary! I'm sure Greg knows what he's talking about on this.

hehe.