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Politics : The Left Wing Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Poet who wrote (183)	12/6/2000 9:27:06 PM
From: YlangYlangBreeze	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6089

ON TOPIC Let's get back to Left Wing Stuff I am so sick of Gore being portrayed as desperate. It's not f'n desperation. It's determination, dedication. He's acting like a guy who fights for what's right. He's fighting for the will of the people to be revealed definitivelly. He owes it to us to fight. He knows he risks ridicule. We are letting him down by not being more vociferous in our support. This should be reciprocal. He wages war, we holler and scream and protest, and support him in every way until he decides to quit, even as we rally round him, so he can save face. He should appear to be pushed up and supported by the outraged majority who voted for him, not left to look as if he is desperately clawing his way up through those more vocal fascists. So Bush is happy to win by technicality. 200 year old technicality, but nothing to be proud of. He feared the proposed total recount in Florida because it might take even that technical win away. So even if it is a technical wn, he wants it. He doesn't care. He rides the status quo, as if it were his right, and riducules the people's choice as a sore loser. The monarchy is inherited. He seems to feel entitled. His smirk suits a spoiled brat king. The repubs aren't quitting cause they're tired and want it to be over. People used to wait months to find out election results, but we want immediate gratification. Where is our sense of outrage? Gore won the popular vote, and Gore may well have won Florida. Even if Bush takes Florida, he only wins the electoral by two electoral votes. If the electors thought there is enough outrage out here, perhaps a couple would feel the urge and justification to vote for the will of the majority which was GORE FOR PRESIDENT in 2000. Even if we accept the outcome of this election, why are we not already screaming about standards for future elections? That the electoral college system is obsolete, or for a standardized ballot or electronic ballots, or synchronous closing of the polls, or prohibition of states being called before all polls close? Why are we not demanding that our respective states divide the electoral votes next time round as Maine (?) does? Why are we just rolling over? Where is our outrage???? WE WON THE POPULAR VOTE GODAMMIT, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN!

To: Poet who wrote (183)	12/6/2000 11:38:45 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

Please my dear Poet, May I enter this "Porch of Refuge" for Liberals out there that have been fighting the good fight against the forces of evil. On cyberspace and in real space.. since the McGovern campaign so many moons ago. I have for credentials, campaign buttons from that dear man's run against that dreaded N man, that again, like now, we were so against the odds, but we were so right then.. as he resigned in disgrace. Do you think we might be right again??.. and there might be a resignation again...... When the the truth comes out.. I don't know.. I might also offer as admission to this exclusive society, Charter membership in "Common Cause".. "People for the American Way"" etc.. But I grow tired,, I need rest, from the shrill rabid right on SI, At your advice, I did take rabies shots and I wore my leather underware when I went into that Bush den......But entering strange Bushes is always a risk.. as I know.. no excuses.. So like always, when I enter a strange place..I knew where the back door was.. I stood by the pool table so my hand was near a que..But 10 to 1. Well, "against all odds" I need this "City of Refuge".. to gather strength.. to go out again.. Which I will do... It is easy though.... After watching.. "The Gang that couldn't shoot Straight " testifying in the the trials in Martin and Seminole Counties.. One lemonade please.. c