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To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/7/2000 3:13:16 PM
From: Uncle Frank  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
>> So buy just hanging on until fundamentals have changed is your basic strategy, if I am hearing you right.

In a nutshell, yes.

>> IF we get into similar valuation levels like we did with QCOM or NTAP in tha past and consequently your % of each over shadows everything else in your portfolio...would you consider cutting back?

Yes, but only on a scheduled basis. As part of my newly prioritized focus on portfolio management, I will review my allocations at the end of each year and rebalance my portfolio. I won't do this on an interim basis though, since I have an extremely bad record at timing.

uf



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/7/2000 3:50:52 PM
From: DiB  Respond to of 152472
 
>In fact I am basically prevented from making anymore money due to trading until month (for 2001 tax year) because of our financial arrangements.

I have exactly the same situation. I'll pay major taxes in April, and will pay estimated tax throughout the year 2001. I'll have to sell equities to pay those taxes. I can take losses now, which I'm totally against because IMO those companies will rebound in a big way. If I take some gains now then I'll have to sell more equities next year to pay those damn taxes.
This situation is probably very typical. I wonder what other people end up doing in a case like this...



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/7/2000 4:29:58 PM
From: Don Lloyd  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
Rick -

...I will have to send Uncle Sam and the state two checks totaling $4,100 by the 15th of January. ...

This is only true if you insist on fully paying estimated taxes. If you instead wait until April 15, and the full $4100 amount represented an underpayment and therefore a penalty, your extra penalty payment would likely be $4100 at a 9% annual rate for 3 months, or about $92.25.

I prefer to never make any estimated payments and merely pay any penalties at filing time. If you were to realize a capital gain on January 2, and invest the estimated tax payment at money market rates, you would likely roughly break even since the 9% penalty rate would be effectively spread out over the four estimated payment dates.

Regards, Don



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/7/2000 9:29:06 PM
From: Boplicity  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
try never to let taxes drive you investment decisions. The more taxes I'm paying the more I'm winning by. Paying taxes is just another gage on how I'm doing. If you worry about taxes you will end up losing money by letting stocks slip away.

Greg



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/7/2000 10:54:36 PM
From: David E. Taylor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Rick:

To add to Don's point that the penalty for waiting until 4/15 to pay the tax bill isn't that great, there's the "out" that if you've deposited at least 90% of your 1999 taxes during 2000, the penalty is waived.

Like Don, I prefer to give the government the minimum amount necessary to stay out of trouble, and cough up the taxes on 4/15 each year (or later if they aren't too much).

This year I got more adventuresome, and instead of holding the cash in reserve for 2000's taxes at 5% money market rates, I invested Uncle Sam's taxes in PALM and QCOM. Now I get to keep the investment profits on those invested taxes, and don't have to pay that tax bill until April 2002. Just doing my bit for the deficit!

David T.



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/8/2000 10:02:57 AM
From: freeus  Respond to of 152472
 
You bet the govt taxes us too much. We are happy slaves...in Ca we work until June 16th for the fed and state governments : almost half the year to pay the govt.
Pretty sick.
Nevertheless when I look at my accounts from last year, down from $1.1 million at their high to $140,000 now....I should have sold and paid the damn taxes.
When stocks become over valued in the winter rally we know that reality is coming. Now we have all been through a bear market so we know what can happen.
I hate taxes, as you know, and I consider them theft and extortion because of the threat of death and jail that goes along with them. But last year has taught me that, given what we have with the market and with our taxing system, it's worth taking gains and keeping some, versus not taking gains and losing all of them.
Freeus



To: waverider who wrote (89368)12/8/2000 10:54:28 PM
From: S100  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
How about a 60 percent or more tax rate?

Ollila's Nokia thrives in high-tech revolution
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By Christopher Brown-Humes

Jorma Ollila does not like talking about himself. "There must be more interesting people to write about," the Nokia chief executive says. This is no false modesty on Mr Ollila's part. He would much prefer to talk about Nokia, the company, than Ollila, the person.

But, despite Mr Ollila's best efforts, many people find the two inseparable. He has been Nokia's chief executive since 1992 and more recently chief executive and chairman. He has overseen the transformation of the company from an unfocused conglomerate into the world's leading manufacturer of mobile telephones. And he has created extraordinary wealth not just for Nokia employees but for Finland as well: not many chief executives can claim to have helped inspire an entire country with self-confidence.

Almost uniquely in Europe, Nokia has shown that you do not have to be Japanese to be a world-leading consumer electronics manufacturer, nor do you have to be American to stay at the cutting edge of internet technology.

Ask Mr Ollila the secrets of Nokia's success and he makes it sound almost easy: "We were earlier than most in understanding the benefits of focusing your business portfolio in a globalised world, that in order to be really successful you have to globalise your organisation and focus your business portfolio . . . We have also been able to grow and be global and maintain our agility and be fast at the same time."

But how much of this success is due to him and how much to his senior managers? And what is the role of pure luck, given the explosive growth of mobile telephony in the 1990s?

Mr Ollila became Nokia chief executive on January 16 1992. Before that, he ran the group's mobile phone division, which was lossmaking when he took charge in early 1990. "My brief was to decide whether to sell it or keep it. After four months I proposed we keep it. We had good people, we had know-how and there was a market-growth opportunity," he says.

As chief executive in the mid-1990s, Mr Ollila focused the group on mobile telephony by selling or spinning off operations in consumer electronics, tyres and cables. The best moment of his career came in early 1994: "It was then that I realised we really had a chance to do well." Even that is something of an understatement - Nokia has since become Europe's largest company by market capitalisation.

Mr Ollila is an affable man, the opposite of a flamboyant US boss. Like many Nordic executives, he is happiest when inconspicuous. He is Finland's best-paid executive, last year earning FM86m ($12.6m) - the amount includes the sale of some share options and, Finland being an egalitarian country, FM53m of it was paid in tax. But there is nothing ostentatious about his lifestyle. "You wouldn't recognise his car in the traffic," says a colleague.

"I'm a home-loving person," he says. "I spend a lot of time with my family, even if our children [he has three] have flown the nest. I like to spend time in the country."

His two sons - now 24 and 17 - first beat him at tennis when they were 12 and 13. But he takes pride in still being able to give them a game. Did he mind getting beaten the first time? "When you have taught a youngster for six years on a regular weekly basis, you feel you have achieved something," he says.

Mr Ollila turned his back on a career in academia. "That was the right decision. I am more of a doer than a conceptualist," he says.

Mr Ollila has suffered setbacks but they have been rare. On one occasion in late 1995 the group issued a profits warning shortly after he had been quoted as making upbeat remarks about the US market that seemed hard to square with what emerged. He was then slow to make himself available for explanations. "Ollila lost his balance," said one commentator at the time.

However, work colleagues see a focused and "extremely thorough" man who places considerable demands on himself and is constantly setting himself new challenges. That view is echoed by investment analysts and fund managers. He is admired for his communications and presentation skills.

It is a rare man who can be both self-effacing and boundlessly determined not to sit back. Perhaps it is this combination that is reflected in what Mr Ollila himself describes as a vital element in Nokia's success: "a very stable and single-minded management team that doesn't accept falling into a comfortable feeling and saying, 'OK, now we did it, let's have a party.' "

In the high-technology world, few can boast a team of five senior executives who have all worked at the company for at least 15 years - but that is the record of Pekka Ala-Pietila, Nokia's president; Matti Alahuhta, head of Nokia Mobile Phones; Sari Baldauf, head of Nokia Networks; Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo, the finance director; and Mr Ollila himself.

This stability is spiced with unpredictability. Mr Ollila is said to be a hard taskmaster. The main risk, Mr Ollila says, is complacency. He talks of a "daily, continuous fight against bureaucracy and against becoming an incumbent, stable institution. People easily slip into their comfort zones and don't ask chilling enough questions of themselves or question the environment they are in. It [works] much better if you have to move to a new environment, even within your own industry."

One solution is to move people around. The group's senior executives were reshuffled several years ago - not because things were going badly but to keep them on their toes at a time when Nokia had just taken over from Motorola to become the world's number one mobile phone maker. The custom continues. Nokia's top networks sales executive in Europe recently became sales director of the mobile phone division in the US.

Ultimately, restructuring may also be needed. Mr Ollila has warned that there are dangers for companies that reach $20bn in annual sales and 100,000 employees. Nokia has already hit the first of these and, at present rates of growth, the company, which employs 60,000 today, will reach 100,000 in four years' time.

"We don't want to become an organisation of 100,000 people. If we can avoid that by smart outsourcing and restructuring and the right kind of focusing, we have better chances of being successful," he says.

And how does he keep himself out of the comfort zone? He once said he was energised when times were difficult and he faces plenty of people who question whether Nokia can maintain its current market share - about 30 per cent for handsets - and margins of around 20 per cent without sacrificing one or the other. Others warn that the revolution of the mobile internet may be less earth-shattering than the telecommunications industry would like to think.

But he seems just as energised by success. Indeed he recently had the satisfaction of announcing strong third-quarter results just as Ericsson and Motorola, the company's main rivals, faltered.

Mr Ollila celebrated his 50th birthday in August. He has spent nearly nine years doing one of the most demanding jobs in European business. But he shows no sign of giving up. Asked how long he intends to continue at Nokia, he replies: "A few more years - if the shareholders let me."

Unless something goes badly wrong, they probably will. One analyst says the company's share price would fall 10 per cent if Mr Ollila said he planned to resign tomorrow. Besides, Mr Ollila has unfinished business. He does not want Nokia to be remembered as just the company that led the way in the mobile phone voice market. "I want Nokia to be the company that brought the internet and mobility together," he says.

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