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To: greenspirit who wrote (104986)12/7/2000 11:29:28 PM
From: Dave Gore  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Michael, well thought out, but first, machines are not more accurate. Even the machines manufacturers say that manual recounts are more accurate. Did you not know that?

But even beside that point, machines are 0% accurate in counting ballots where the chads are hanging. ZERO %!!!!

I agree that Florida law does a poor job of setting standards on voter intent, BUT I also think it is common sense to set reasonable standards amongst the required Democratic and Republican on the evaluation recount committees.

Remember that TV cameras are present and even an audience can watch the whole thing.

Further, this has been done for decades. It's nothing new.

Most importantly it is allowed for in the LAW.



To: greenspirit who wrote (104986)12/7/2000 11:37:30 PM
From: JLIHAI  Respond to of 769670
 
You make a good point about manual recounts which ties in with how the Constitution addresses the election. The Constitution mentions "fair". This is where the manual recounts become questionable. The way these manual recounts were conducted is an abomination. Try to maintain that Gunzburger in Broward was using the same standard as Burton in Palm Beach. Subjectivity was indisputably present. The more you introduce subjectivity into counting the further away from fair you get. There was a letter sent to Judge Burton from the Florida Atty General, addressing the dangers of a two-tier counting system on Constitutional grounds.



To: greenspirit who wrote (104986)12/8/2000 12:54:12 AM
From: Mr. Whist  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Re: "One of the main reasons machine are used in elections is because they are more accurate than manual counts."

Not true. Machines-punchcards are used because they're cheap and semi-fast. In 99 percent of the elections, the margin of machine error is less than the margin of victory, so close counts.

Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in Florida.