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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (4436)	12/8/2000 12:09:28 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

That's what you BELIEVE. But if it isn't true, it IS a chain, or if you don't like chain- how about an unnecessary limitation on your thoughts and actions.. You can't know it is true. If you want to believe it is, and I still can't see why you would, that's your business. But these pronouncements have about the same level of credibility as if you said- "The witch in Hansel and Gretel offered children sweets- so all people who offer children sweets are suspect." Reasoning a la myth isn't terribly convincing to people who don't believe the myth.

To: Greg or e who wrote (4436)	12/8/2000 12:38:12 PM
From: Mitch Blevins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

>>Knowledge is not the cause of original sin. Disobedience is<< This is an argument akin to: "Guns don't kill people. Bullets do" If God was truly just testing for obedience, He could have easily picked something else like "Don't run with scissors" as the litmus. That the object of disobedience is the Knowledge of Good and Evil must be symbolic in some way, yes? Which leads me to a more serious question... do you believe the story in Genesis is symbolic?

To: Greg or e who wrote (4436)	12/8/2000 12:41:38 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Gen 1: 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." It sounds like God wanted some slave labor to work the garden. Why was this particular tree so bad? And if knowledge of evil is bad, why is it where Adam and Eve could accidentally eat it? What if the fruit fell off and rolled over to the base of the apple tree? And God knows what a nit-wit twerp the serpent is, so why doesn't he keep him out? It's like blaming the older brother you leave in charge of the younger kids. That only goes so far into obviating parental responsibility. If I leave an electric turkey carver in my baby's crib, who is responsible for the injury to the baby? Me, the baby's older brother or the baby?

To: Greg or e who wrote (4436)	12/8/2000 12:45:50 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

On a similar note, you're back in good graces with the pope. Now he agrees with me that all good people go to heaven. That is a change from his faux pas of a couple months back where he said you had to be Catholic.

To: Greg or e who wrote (4436)	12/8/2000 12:57:48 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Original sin is the first principal of socialism and Catholicism. The Jesus example came to do away with that because he died for your original sin on the cross. For the first time in the history of religion God became man. The Jews rejected him the Romans put him to death and then could not run fast enough to get away from him until they finally absorbed each other in the Holy Roman Empire for political expediency. Christ made Alexander the Great look like a piker, at least as far as death, bloodshed and empire go.