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To: justone who wrote (9601)	12/8/2000 7:12:20 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Hi Justone, picking up from where I left off in post 9583: Message 14972261 Just about all of the points that I would look to reconcile appear to already have been discussed and settled between you and Peter. Some deep philosophical issues, albeit esoteric in nature to most, have been spawned by the creation of the switched [port-level bridged] version of Ethernet, mostly by those who would seek the preservation of the fluid ether, as you noted. I wonder what Metcalfe's take on this was when the switched tens first became available. I would think that he would have applauded it, since even before the switched variants (those that allow dedicated point to point connections) arrived, networkers were struggling to harness their data over backbone routes in a similar fashion, only during those earlier times [between the late Seventies and the early Nineties] they were using thick coax and "bridges." Which, when you look at what a switched port is, is nothing radically different in principle, although the newer ports are backed up with a lot more intelligence and speed, with some of them looking at the upper layers for instructions, to boot... FAC

To: justone who wrote (9601)	12/10/2000 12:54:56 AM
From: Peter Ecclesine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Hi Justone, ISO/IEC 8802.3 will eventually reprint IEEE 802.3 2000 Edition, which runs 1553 pages. This is the Real Thing definition of Ethernet, not DIX v1.0. [It's not your father's Oldsmobile] All that is left of 'Ethernet' is the bit ordering in the media and within the packets/frames. Size or Type field indeed. petere and 'wireless Ethernet' is defined by IEEE 802.11, promoted by WECA, www.wirelessethernet.com The meaning of words continue to evolve