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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: ecommerceman who wrote (107407)12/9/2000 8:22:48 AM
From: JamesB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
pass enabling legislation allowiing(sic) the statewide manual recount to go forward.

This exposes much of what is wrong with what is going on in Florida. The election MUST be decided by the laws that were in effect on the day of the election. They cannot simply pass a new law because they want to, or think that it is the "right thing to do". If we could just stick with the law and if a re-count is necessary, then re-count according to the law in effect on election day (i.e., dimples are not counted). Why is following the law too much to ask?



To: ecommerceman who wrote (107407)12/9/2000 5:52:31 PM
From: Dan B.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
What you say is appears reasonable, but James B's response is correct. Even the Legislature can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Furthermore, and I think more significantly, as Gore spoke of his reasonable offer, he was in fact seeking something reprehensible behind the podium. That this man EVER sought such a count favoring himself, let alone in reality simultaneously with his words of fairness, is so distasteful that....that...that...Oh well. I can't blame Bush for not dealing with such a man. Bush was under no obligation to seek another count beyond the rules, putting his own voters in possible jeapordy.

Half of the voters voted for Bush. Gore started and finished, trying to seek unfair advantage. You know the drill. Territorial Gore counting advantages claimed as providing a fair result. Kick out oversees and absentee ballots favoring Bush if possible. Anything favoring him. All these actions were moving forward as he made his "offer," and would have surely continued if Bush had accepted, while waiting to see if some scenario like your's could be put in place simultaneously.

Dan B



To: ecommerceman who wrote (107407)12/9/2000 8:35:34 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
"Dan--if both candidates had agreed to a manual recount, it would have not been very difficult for Dubya's brother to call a special session of the legislature and, with the support of Democrats and Republicans (which would have been automatic), pass enabling legislation allowiing the statewide manual recount to go forward"

First, it is not Bush or Gore's place to be rewriting rules. That's like lottery ticket purchasers conferring after a drawing and agreeing that the lottery commision should change the rules after the fact to increase the chances of altering the result of the drawing. This is NOT simply a matter of intransigence, this is a very serious matter of the foundational principle of fair play that underlies just and legitimate institutions. You do not arbitrarily alter the rules of fair play in mid game. Doing so creates environments like we are seeing in Florida now - chaos, uncertainty, and failing faith in the fairness and objectivity of institutions. ie, undermining the foundations of stable government.

Derek