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To: MeDroogies who wrote (87788)12/12/2000 6:49:22 PM
From: Andreas  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 97611
 
MeDroogies;

I agree, but I take no solace from the fact that cpq's warning was less than gtw's on a percentage basis. Hopefully, as some have suggested, cpq will now rise a bit now that the warning is out of the way.



To: MeDroogies who wrote (87788)12/12/2000 7:02:12 PM
From: hlpinout  Respond to of 97611
 
PC makers' rebates may win consumers but lose profits
By: Joe Wilcox, CNET News.com
12/11/00 9:01:00 AM
Source: News.com

Consumers can take rebates to the bank this Christmas as PC manufacturers and retailers struggle
to clear stock from store shelves.

Not since the free-PC craze of summer 1999 have consumers seen rebates--or deals--like these, say
analysts. The cost to retailers, computer manufacturers and processor makers could be massive
cuts to razor-thin margins on some of the hottest PC models.

Circuit City and Best Buy are at the forefront in pushing rebates and
bundles, said ARS analyst Matt Sargent. CompUSA and RadioShack
also are aggressively promoting rebates.

For consumers, the rebates mean huge savings. Circuit City on
Sunday, for example, started promoting a Compaq Presario PC with
750-MHz AMD Athlon processor and 15-inch monitor for $249, after
$850 in rebates: $400 from CompuServe with three-year Internet
service commitment, $250 from Compaq Computer and $150 from
Circuit City.

"It is the first desktop (retailer) rebate I've seen over $100, which is the
pretty common amount," Sargent said. "But when you're jumping up
to $150, that's huge. I was shocked when I saw $150 for a notebook a
couple of weeks ago from Fry's (Electronics)."

The rebates, when coupled with recent price cuts--especially for
notebooks--mean outstanding deals not seen before at retail. Circuit
City is promoting a Compaq Presario notebook with 600-MHz Celeron
processor and 13-inch display for $699 after $500 in combined
rebates from Internet service provider CompuServe and from the PC
maker.

Best Buy, meanwhile, is advertising a Compaq Presario portable with 700-MHz Pentium III processor,
14.1-inch display, 15GB hard drive and DVD drive for $1,599 after two rebates: $400 from
CompuServe and another $200 from Compaq.

"There was a lot of misforecasting and overemphasis on consumer notebooks, and I think there are
an awful lot of them out in the (retail) channel right now," said Gartner analyst Kevin Knox.
Manufacturers and retailers had expected a boom in consumer notebook sales, he said, "but that
clearly isn't happening."

Knox's conclusion: "I think a bunch of people are going to lose their shirts on these things. Nobody
can make money on a $699 notebook even with the (ISP) rebates."

Rock and a hard place
Retailers are caught between a rock and a very hard place because of overeager forecasts for PC
sales. They share this dilemma with PC makers, which are watching a stock buildup on dealers'
shelves rather than the usual holiday pickup in sales. The industry inventory average is nearly twice
normal levels, or about 7.4 weeks, up from less than 4 weeks in September, according to ARS.

While manufacturers can typically absorb rebates as high as $250, "for the retailer, $150 is their
margin," Sargent said. "At that point, they're just trying to move the product, so they're not stuck
selling it off for $300 come January."

But who pays for retailer rebates is often hard to discern, say analysts. The retailer may offer the
rebate, but that deal may actually be a subsidy by the computer manufacturer or a processor maker,
such as Advanced Micro Devices or Intel.

"Retailers aren't going to give up a cent, let alone $150, on anything," said Knox. "Still, I think the
retailers are starting to feel some concern here they're not going to make their numbers. That's why
the rebates."

Not all analysts see this number of retailer rebates as unusual, nor are they surprised by the
intensity at which they're being offered.

"There's nothing here we haven't seen before," said PC Data analyst Stephen Baker, although he
acknowledged that "$250 rebates is probably higher than we've seen in the past."

Best Buy provides a good example of how rebates can be spread around. The retailer is offering deals
with no financing until June 2002 on select PCs sold with a monitor and printer, and many of its best
rebates require bundles. Best Buy on Sunday started promoting a Micron 1-GHz Athlon PC with
17-inch monitor and printer for $1,299, down from $1,949 after a $100 price cut and various rebates:
$100 for the monitor, $50 for the printer and $400 from CompuServe.

Analysts warn that Apple Computer and Compaq are the most exposed right now, as their inventory
levels are highest--11 weeks and 10.5 weeks, respectively--according to ARS. Both companies are
the most aggressive with rebates, with Apple offering as much as $500 in coupons and Compaq,
$250.

But Baker and Knox both wondered if Compaq is further subsidizing retailer rebates in an effort to
clear stock from store shelves. "That further erodes Compaq's margins," Knox said.

Compaq's exposure could carry over to RadioShack, Sargent said. The retailer exclusively offers
Compaq PCs "and is likely to be in the same position overforecasting holiday sales," he explained.

Knox said Compaq and other PC makers may be forced to subsidize additional rebates. "With that
much inventory out in the channel, I think they might have no other choice. They have to sell it to
clear way for new models."

Caught by surprise
This year's oversupply caught virtually every PC manufacturer, component supplier and retailer by
surprise, say analysts. While September--the third-highest retail sales month of the year, according
to NPD Intelect--showed a normal trend going into the holidays, consumer sales collapsed in October
and continued to be slow in November.

Rather than the typical holiday pickup, consumers are passing over PCs for other high-tech gadgets
and peripherals this year, say analysts. Preliminary November retail sales data from PC Data shows
a 12 percent decline year over year, which Baker described as "about the worst we've ever seen."

Weekly data from OneChannel.net, a market researcher tracking online sales, shows a startling
trend leading into the holidays. Online PC sales during the lucrative Thanksgiving holiday week were
31 percent below the year-to-date average, making it the slowest sales period of the year. The week
ending Dec. 2, sales dropped 28 percent.

The PC slowdown affects virtually every manufacturer, at a time when most count on robust sales
through the holidays. For the two weeks before Thanksgiving, Nov. 11 through 24, online PC-systems
sales declined starkly compared to the previous two weeks, according to OneChannel.net.

For the period, Compaq's and Dell Computer's online sales each fell about 25 percent, the market
researcher reported. Sony and Apple also took a beating, falling 14.5 percent and 11.9 percent,
respectively. Hewlett-Packard's decline was just shy of 11 percent.

Retailers offering rebates is certainly nothing new, but it took on new meaning during the summer of
1999. At that time, rebates from CompuServe and other Internet service providers (ISPs) meant
consumers could walk out of Best Buy with free or nearly free PCs. But this year, ISP rebates have
been much less visible--until around September and October when retailers started aggressively
promoting CompuServe and MSN rebates.

Knox remained pessimistic about the rest of the holiday PC selling season.

"I think this is really turning out to be much worse than even we initially reported that it was," he said.
"As we get further along, you're going to see more drastic measures. At Christmas, you could see
people giving PCs away."



To: MeDroogies who wrote (87788)12/13/2000 4:23:53 AM
From: Seamus McKenna  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 97611
 
Let's make the best of this. CPQ is in good company with its warning: INTC, XLNX, NT, even DELL, to name but a few. Perhaps now that the rumour has been sold, buying will start on the news.

And then there's the short covering.