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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Chris land who wrote (4915)	12/14/2000 12:41:36 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

So God made a choice- at least according to your scripture, not to allow some people into the kingdom of God. If God did NOT make this choice than he is not all powerful and something more powerful than God made the rule about that. So either he IS sending people to hell or he is not. Because the PRIME cause reason, the first reason, they are going to Hell are God's rules. But for God's creation there wouldn't be any Hell. And but for his rules about who is in and who is out no one would be going there. Some Christians think the choice of who gets in and who doesn't is predetermined (predestination) and some think it is not (free will). Either way it's an exclusive boys and girls club isn't it? Discrimination on the highest order.

To: Chris land who wrote (4915)	12/14/2000 12:51:02 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

<<The posters here are under the very strong delusion... >> It's so weird when it is the ones who choose not to live in a cloud coo coo land who are lectured about delusions! The world is a funny place.

To: Chris land who wrote (4915)	12/14/2000 9:07:29 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Message 15019099 Apparently, Cola Can has reached the end of his intellectual rope, and is incapable of answering the question of whether: ALL human beings are God's children; SOME human beings are God's children: Or NO human beings are God's children!! Certainly, popular Christianity preaches that we are all God's children! But Cola seems to be saying that the criteria for who is or is not one of God's children is only made after all the abortions are counted. If we are aborted (i.e. sent to Hell) then we are NOT* his children. If we are not sent to hell, then we were not aborted!* It seems a rather circular reasoning! But he has been unable to present any argument for his denial that people are sent to Hell by God. The whole thing is rather funny! You, of course, know that God made all evil and is quite boastful about it. He also prates about the fact that He planned in advance who would go to Hell! It is none of our business and we are told--don't ask! You know the scriptures, of course! It is funny how God likens Himself to a potter that makes bad pots alongside of the mediocre pots. The bad ones he aborts, and throws to the garbage. Except that He exerts His will and ensures that they will live in the garbage dump forever--burning brightly...so that He may enjoy the eternal torture of HIS BAD POTTERY! God has quite a sense of humour! Making His pots defective, and then cursing them and torturing them. God doesn't send HIS children to Hell. He ABORTS them! What a guy!! PROVERBS 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. ROMANS 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: