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To: Atin who wrote (1347)	12/17/2000 6:31:59 PM
From: Greta Mc	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6089

I was simply trying to clarify that we don't all fit into certain stereotypes. I'm not sexist. I just see the same facts from a different point of view than others do, and I wanted to address the idea of women who are against abortion as being married and being raised with some sort of Christian, Catholic, etc. background.

To: Atin who wrote (1347)	12/17/2000 7:08:06 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6089

"I have never quite understood how the same people who are against abortion are for the death penalty." There is, of course, an interesting corollary to that.

To: Atin who wrote (1347)	12/17/2000 8:31:18 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6089

Atin, I think that I understand some of the views of anti-abortion people. I don't agree, but I think I understand. I believe that it is wrong to kill another person (unless in self defense or to protect another's life). The basic idea behind many who are against abortion is that the fetus is in fact a human being with a soul and therefore worthy of the same protection that one would give a birthed human. So then the question becomes something to the effect of what defines personhood. Is it when the baby is born and takes its first breath, is it when it reaches self awareness in the womb, is it when it gets fingerprints and therefore is an indentifiably unique individual. I don't know the answer to this and would argue that there is nobody who is able to make this determinination based on objective evidence. Therefore, I consider it inappropriate to try and legislate what a woman decides is the right answer for herself. But on the other hand, if a person truly sees abortion as killing a human being on par with murder, I don't see it as sexist, but rather an application of subjective beliefs on others where women are the incidental subjects of controlling behavior because they carry children. And it wouldn't matter if a group of civil servants who reached consensus that a fetus reached personhood in the first trimester of gestation, I would still believe that they are no more qualified to make that determination than I am.:-) I am a pro-choice person, I believe that this applies to many things besides a woman's choice to carry a child to term. It could mean things like home schooling, charity (I believe that I have the right to chose to be charitable or not as well as to decide where my charitable dollars are spent. I also believe that I have the right to decide whether or not to support the arts or media. In all of these cases, the government has decided to get involved in a decision making processes which should be left to individuals. And yet many who profess themselves to be "pro-choice" only apply it to a woman's right to choose. Of course, I am certain that some who are anti-choice hold these views for sexist reasons. JXM