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Strategies & Market Trends : Anthony @ Equity Investigations, Dear Anthony, -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Mama Bear who wrote (64661)12/18/2000 10:23:32 PM
From: smchan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 122087
 
If I shorted at 12 and the stock is now 3, do I still have 12 'invested'? The answer is no since I'm now required to have 3 per share in security (rules change sub 5).

This is true... but in the beginning you had to have $12 to cover the short stock whether it be margin or cash. (Even if only $6 is required, buying power is still reduced by $12. That $6 or $12 is not available to me.)

You are also thinking of this from the long point of view. Don't forget that the security you put up for a short sale can be any form of marginable equity.

I considered margin before I wrote the original post. In fact, I could argue that if I went long at $12 and sold at $24 for a $12 profit, my ROI would actually be 300% (based on having $6 + margin... 24-6=18/6=300%), but it isn't because my original investment was $12 regardless of whether it was cash or borrowed money.

Regardless of whether I have $6 on margin or $12 cash, my liability is $12 and if my trade goes against me, I lose up to $12 (on the long side) or more (on the short side).

Sam