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To: nihil who wrote (1534)	12/21/2000 10:57:08 AM
From: Rolla Coasta	Respond to of 74559

i think free trading between the strait is a good start. Personally, I do not think PRC is a conquerer. They are just protecting themselves from the surrounding forces.

To: nihil who wrote (1534)	12/25/2000 4:12:50 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

--It seems much more likely to me that Taiwan will reconquer the mainland by internal subversion and investment than that a brutal, mismanaged, and panicky mainland will conquer Taiwan. -- i had a dream once where i was riding a moped down the streets of a free shanghai. china was free; not safe or secure, but free. i can see your vision coming to pass. andy

To: nihil who wrote (1534)	1/22/2003 8:34:02 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello nihil, You haven't posted since October 2001, but never mind ... perhaps CB will chime in In response to your December 2000 post ... <<It seems much more likely to me that Taiwan will reconquer the mainland by internal subversion and investment than that a brutal, mismanaged, and panicky mainland will conquer Taiwan>> It seems to me that the Taiwan-Mainland Reunification is on schedule: Message 18473875 Reference today's 'news' 25 months ago:0) <<http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=15079992 December 25th, 2000 ... Having a good view of both Taiwan and China, the surface and the sub-surface, and having relatives working with and for both sides, leads me to conclude that the dream is just that and only that. Taiwan's life blood is gushing and flowing to China, in the form of capacity for textiles, chemicals, construction, chip making and properties. The smaller outfits are moving $ openly, and the big outfits are doing it by proxy. The KMT bigwigs are spearheading the signing of contracts, and the work is being farmed out to their buddies who can not get cushy contracts with the new Taiwan administration. Many of these contracts are signed with the CCP bigwigs' relations in cosy arrangements. President Chen is not and will not be allowed to become dangerous to the flow, and he knows it. Believe Taiwan will go of its own accord and believe 'they' already know schedule, plus or minus a few years. Taiwan is literally being bought with their own money, which in turn are generated from sales of motherboards and chips. The panic is definitely felt in Taiwan. ... The Taiwan administration will 'lose' Taiwan in the same way and for the same reasons they lost the mainland - selfishness, corruption, disunity. The mainland administration will 'win' Taiwan in the same way they won the mainland - the will to power. The underlying political issues are really quite irrelevant to either side and both are as corrupt as any political organization in the world, with only the Washington Post and NY Times able to make sense out of nonsense.>> Chugs, Jay