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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: cosmicforce who wrote (5334)12/22/2000 5:18:30 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
For me if you "freeze" everything, THAT is motionlessness. Can you have existence with out motion

Lets try to find a common cloud here! Firstly, I cannot consider time as a dimension. It doesn't make any sense. All existing things can be measured and defined in terms of their dimensions. In no instance does time measure anything other than itself. It is self referential. It is absolute motion measuring itself as it stands in relative synchronicity to all other motion. It is not a quality or attribute of anything. Therefore, I can see it as a Universal ground, but not as a dimension.

Furthermore, as a measurement, it exists only in the mind, as a mathematical perception of relative motion. If nobody watches the sun or fiddles with a watch--time is depreciated. It is only our measuring (our perception) that gives it validity.

If it is true that motion is an attribute of existence, then I suppose that time is as well. However, I would rather say that motion is a necessary attribute of life, rather than of existence. I can visualize the universe being reduced to its elemental energy quacks or moos, and then having the motion frozen out. The guy in the next universe could still say: "that universe EXISTS. It just needs to be heated up and stirred."



To: cosmicforce who wrote (5334)12/22/2000 6:10:12 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
To further clarify (or confuse):

Motion exists. Motion is an attribute of things. But time is not motion. Time is a measurement (not of things--but of motion). Time is the ruler. And the ruler is in our minds...