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To: Dan3 who wrote (123779)	12/28/2000 10:27:29 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan, <Yet AMD is gaining much more this next month from the new low cost/high performance chipsets and motherboards being released by other companies than it would have gained by releasing a large cache "server" chip.> Gotta like the spin coming from AMD. "No one was really interested in Mustang." Hogwash. AMD's failure to produce any platform above 2-way SMP is the real reason why Mustang was axed. This despite the fact that EV6 had the "potential" to reach 8-way SMP and above. Remember that promise back when Athlon was first released in 1999? Tenchusatsu

To: Dan3 who wrote (123779)	12/28/2000 11:18:23 PM
From: Joey Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan, yup, AMD's brilliant strategy of relying on 3rd party (which are AMD competitors, btw) support for critical chipsets/motherboards...its done them well so far with all the AMD chip delays <g> Also, looks like performance is crap. No wonder AMD has to sell their chips at such a huge discount to Intel. From Anand's website: From the other side of the road, also in January, we will see the release of the Duron 850 from AMD. This will continue to give AMD the clock speed lead over Intel in the value market segment. However, as we saw in our reviews of the SiS 730S as well as the VIA KM133 (two value platforms specifically targeted at the Duron), the performance of the Duron is severely crippled by integrated solutions that it will be coupled with. It wouldn't be too surprising for a 100MHz FSB Celeron 800 on an i810E to come out faster than a Duron 800 on one of its new value platforms Joey

To: Dan3 who wrote (123779)	12/29/2000 1:12:32 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Lewinskty-Dan - Re: "Yet AMD is gaining much more this next month from the new low cost/high performance chipsets and motherboards being released by other companies than it would have gained by releasing a large cache "server" chip. AMD just sits there, and gets to see its competitive osition enormously improved. Intel works like mad - and falls way behind." You've counted all your chickens - and they're not hatched ! AMD has relied upon third party chip sets for 4 years - always to AMD's detriment. And Oliversudden next month, the world will change and AMD will skyrocket by virtue of these same third party chip set makers !! You're a dreamer, Danny Girl !! Tell us the story of AMD's SMP DDR server chip sets that are due in August of 2000 (4 months ago !). Come on,, Danny Girl - tell us another "tall one" ! Paul