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To: chalu2 who wrote (120084)12/30/2000 1:14:38 PM
From: H-Man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
From Beirut to Jerusalem, by Thomas L. Freidman.

Probably best book on the subject. Written in 1990, but nothing has really changed since then. It details the history and cultural dynamics well.

When I contrast this book to Clinton's actions (from geting Netanyahu ousted, some of the compromises, the attempted accelerations etc.), it enhances the proposition that Slick is more interested in his legacy than solving the problem.

Review:
There have been any number of books that have worked hard at interpreting the melange called the Middle East. This one, however, makes
a difference because it's so well written and captures the psychological mannerisms of the people of Lebanon and Israel--the first step to
understanding some of the mysterious ``why'' that seems to elude the American public and government. Friedman's credentials are
impressive: he spent six years of journalistic service for the New York Times in Beirut and Jerusalem, has won two Pulitzer prizes, and is
now the Times 's chief diplomatic correspondent. His writing is vastly descriptive, incredibly illuminating, very educational, and marvelously
persuasive. His advice to U.S. diplomats is that since ``Middle East diplomacy is a contact sport,'' they must bargain as grocers, or, in other
words, realize that everything has a price and the sale can always be made with enough hard work. This title is highly recommended for all
libraries.



To: chalu2 who wrote (120084)12/30/2000 5:01:43 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
It appears that the Palestinians will not accept any peace plan that does not include complete Israeli surrender
(i.e., the "right of return" of millions of Palestinians to Israel proper, where they would soon begin slaughtering the
minority Jewish inhabitants).

Serious trouble in the Middle East is BAD news for any US administration, Democratic, Republican, or Whig :-). I you just let it go, the Jewish Lobby will crucify you. (Before anyone opens fire on me for being an anti-Semite: My wife is Jewish.) If you intervene with US troops to save them, a large fraction of the non-Jewish population will want you nailed to a cross.

This really highlights the need for the U.S. to ragain its own independence by developing the oil reserves we have here, and those in less unstable regions of the world.
Amen. Clinton released some oil from the reserves earlier this winter to keep heating oil prices down in the Northeast. (That's not a criticism of Clinton, just a statement of fact.)



To: chalu2 who wrote (120084)12/30/2000 8:54:59 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
It appears that the Palestinians will not accept any peace plan that does not include complete Israeli surrender (i.e., the "right of return" of millions of Palestinians to Israel proper, where they would soon begin slaughtering the minority Jewish inhabitants).

During the recent campaign, I recall reading somewhere that Sununu was encouraging Arab-American contributers in Michigan to believe that would be Bush's middle east policy. So it isn't any wonder that Palestinians would refuse to accept anything less.



To: chalu2 who wrote (120084)12/30/2000 11:11:18 PM
From: Chris land  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
<<<<It appears that the Palestinians will not accept any peace plan that does not include complete Israeli surrender (i.e., the "right of return" of millions of Palestinians to Israel proper, where they would soon begin slaughtering the minority Jewish inhabitants).>>>>

Why do you say the Palestinians would slaughter the Jewish inhabitants? Is there any proof they couldn't over a period of time live in harmony with each other?

I find it hard to believe the majority of Palestinians want anything less than just to have a home and to live in peace no matter who their neighbors are.

The US should help in terms of diplomacy but should also charge them a fee for such services rendered, NOT GIVE AWAY OUR TAX MONEY TO SUPPORT ONE SIDES CAUSE AND ONLY HOPE THEY WILL BE NICE TO EACH OTHER AS A RETURN!!!

I can assure you that if our government dried up free foreign aid to Israel they would forget all past handouts and treat us worse than common criminals, nevertheless it's time the US took a neutral position!!!!



To: chalu2 who wrote (120084)12/31/2000 9:52:47 PM
From: D. Long  Respond to of 769667
 
"This really highlights the need for the U.S. to ragain its own independence by developing the oil reserves we have here, and those in less unstable regions of the world"

The US already is the largest oil pumper in the world, we just consume much more than we generate. I think the best long term solution would be put more money into fusion research. Perhaps if Congress wouldn't have killed the Supercollider in Texas, some of the spin off magnetic and superconductor technology would have been a boon to fusion research. To eliminate the majority of our dependence on oil is the most logical strategic budget expenditure we could make.

Derek