To: Neocon who wrote (120346 ) 1/1/2001 1:44:50 PM From: Johannes Pilch Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 Oh come now, you’re not a fink. I am most interested when you reject my point-of-view—not for mere disagreement’s sake, but because I think you probably have some interesting angle on the thing I’ve not considered. Indeed this is the case with American Beauty . I think you will not much win me over to The Patriot . I did not find the point of the film that fresh or profound. And, as I said, I thought too many scenes lacked the ring of truth. On the other hand concerning American Beauty , though I initially understood the subtext of the film, I see I could yet have tied the film’s characters more closely together. And you are correct, it becomes far more interesting when taken existentially, and when it is taken as such it moves a bit off of the trash heap. But not far. The film does not much appeal to my Puritan’s mind primarily because I found its ultimate object of desire so transparently unattractive. Yes, the protagonist, via banality and even ugliness sought “something” lovely. The person of his lust, via her ugliness, also sought “some kind” of beauty. I saw the ugliness of death, pain and the “beauty” they implied was just beneath their surfaces. But I was left certain that this “beauty” was just as wretched as the death that implied it. In other words, I did not much respect the innate senses of the characters-- that they were by nature functional enough to vector in on real beauty. The film appeared to me to consist of a bunch of thirsty people, all of whom vectored in on “something”, ANYTHING(!), but who were too dysfunctional to point to the simple and utter beauty of life-giving water.