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To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (8642)	1/2/2001 7:36:48 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

Unofficial Updated GPRS Network Listing & Status Operator Country Status BT Cellnet UK Commercial T-Mobil Germany Commercial Telstra Australia Commercial SmarTone Hong Kong Commercial Telsim Turkey Commercial Centertel Poland Commercial C & W Optus Australia Commercial Mobilkom Austria Commercial Mobilkom Liechtenstein Commercial KG Telecom Taiwan Commercial Fujian Mobile PR China Commercial PCCWS Hong Kong Commercial EuroTel Praha Czech Republic Commercial TELECEL S.A. Portugal Commercial Blu (new) Italy Commercial Sonera (new) Finland Commercial Europolitan (new) Sweden Commercial New World (new) Hong Kong Commercial Plus GSM (new) Poland Commercial TAL (new) Iceland Commercial TMN (new) Portugal Commercial SONOFON Denmark Testing Mobilix Denmark Testing Eircell Ireland Testing Diax Switzerland Testing Omnitel Italy Testing Powertel (new) United States Testing Microcell (new) Canada Testing Voicestream (new) United States Testing Cingular (new) United States Testing 21 Networks Live and Commercial 09 Networks Live and Testing Source: John Hoffman GPRS Roaming News December, 2000 GPRS Handsets Wanted These are First Handsets out the Door: Vendor Model Date Freqcy Bands Class (D+U) Ericsson R520m Q1 2001 900/1800/1900 4+1 Motorola T260 Q4 2000 900/1800/1900 2+1 Sagem MW 959 Q4 2000 900/1800 2+1 or 3+1 Samsung Q100 Q1 2001 900/1800 4+2 Trium Geo Q4 2000 900/1800 2+1 RIM BB Q1 2001 900/1800 1+1 or 2+1 RIM BB Q1 2001 1900 only 1+1 or 2+1 - Eric -

To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (8642)	1/2/2001 9:38:27 PM
From: S100	Respond to of 34857

Here is something else for the Ilmarinen Group in Finland to study. Nokia domination worries Finland By Christopher Brown-Humes Published: January 2 2001 18:20GMT \| Last Updated: January 2 2001 20:09GMT The village of Sarkisalo in south-western Finland has more reason than most to be grateful to Nokia, the world's biggest maker of mobile phones and the Finland's largest company. The local tax paid last year by a single Nokia employee who happened to live in the village was enough to fund a much-needed water purification plant as well as buy land for new housing. "This shows that the wealth created by Nokia is benefiting not just its employees but whole communities," says Kari Lehtinen, Sarkisalo mayor. The question, though, is whether Finland is becoming too dependent on Nokia. The company accounts for well over 20 per cent of Finland's exports, about a third of R&D expenditure, and is predicted to have generated about a quarter of the country's economic growth of nearly 6 per cent in 2000. Moreover, nearly all of Finland's biggest taxpayers work at Nokia and the company accounts for a staggering 70 per cent of the market value of the Helsinki Stock Exchange. Given this impact, it is not surprising that Finnish economists now spend almost as much time analysing "the Nokia effect" as they do studying more traditional indicators such as interest rates and oil prices. And Nokia is important not just in itself but for its impact on a whole range of subcontractors and other Finnish IT and electronics companies. "Nokia exports as much by value today as the whole of the pulp and paper sector, Finland's traditional industry," says Tarmo Korpela, deputy director general of the Confederation of Finnish Industry and Employers. So, on the face of it, a downturn for Nokia would mean a downturn for Finland as a whole. Some recall the days when Finland became over-dependent on another source of income - trade with the Soviet Union - and the crash in the Finnish economy in the early 1990s when the USSR collapsed. But Markku Kotilainen head of forecasting at the Research Institute of the Finnish Economy (ETLA) says Nokia and the companies that depend on it, only account for 5 to 6 per cent of total GDP. "This is not excessive," he says. Moreover, Finland was frequently said to be too dependent on pulp and paper and metal engineering in the past. At least Nokia and the electronics industry have given the country a third industrial leg on which to stand. snip news.ft.com

To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (8642)	1/3/2001 4:43:41 AM
From: Mika Kukkanen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Ilmarinen: "Btw, nobody runs WAP on SMS messages in Finland, Sonera automatically activates the data settings in the phones for free, that is, response times down to 2-3 seconds, as in the regular WWWait ping-pong web." Are you sure....the reason why I say that is that not all phones support direct WPA connections (e.g., Nokia's products do but Ericsson's preferred route is over SMS - dunno about Motorola's phones)

To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (8642)	1/4/2001 4:17:49 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

re: SMS Text Messaging >> More than 15 billion text messages were sent worldwide by year-end 2000, a fifteenfold increase from only 18 months ago. While growth in the text messaging trend was seen primarily in Europe, the International Data Corp. (IDC) estimates that the number of SMS (text messaging) users in the United States will reach 68 million by 2003. << Excerpt from article on Motorola's new V100: wirelessnewsfactor.com Comment: Since the 15 billion is a monthly figure, I seriously doubt that US will reach this number unless thaey implement SMS roaming. - Eric -

To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (8642)	1/4/2001 8:06:33 PM
From: S100	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Fears of saturation looming over Europe's mobile sector By Dan Roberts, Telecoms Correspondent, in London Published: January 4 2001 21:09GMT \| Last Updated: January 4 2001 23:38GMT ----- Does Finland fall into this group? ------- Mobile phone ownership is reaching a saturation point, which will force many new networks out of business, according to a study based on interviews with leading European operators. Market penetration in most countries has passed 50 per cent of the population, and latest figures out on Thursday from Vodafone and France Telecom suggest two-thirds of the UK population own a mobile. However, Christmas sales data coincide with a new analysis from Forrester Research, an independent consultancy used by phone manufacturers, which suggests that the good times may be nearly over. It predicts that European penetration rates will peak at around 76 per cent at the same time as the auction of third generation licences introduces several new operators. The combination of fresh price competition and the increased cost of 3G networks is likely to turn average operating profits of E172 ($163) per subscriber into a loss by 2007, warns Forrester. This in turn will drive new entrants out of business and force Europe's remaining operators to consolidate into five large groups. The conclusions were rejected on Thursday by operators, which believe revenues from new internet services will compensate to a greater extent than Forrester's projections. Colin Tucker, managing director of Hutchison 3G, the UK's new entrant, also said it was misleading to draw conclusions about new entrants based on the experience of existing operators. Nevertheless, the research is likely to be scrutinised at a time when many investors are questioning the independence of alternative analysis produced by investment banks employed by mobile operators on a series of forthcoming offerings. The fourth-quarter subscriber figures show that phones were among the most popular Christmas presents this year. news.ft.com