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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (238)1/3/2001 12:20:53 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
Go and read his bulletin board... First time I have been to his website (that I recall) and see what he's into..

I noticed that he quoted WorldNetDaily's article about how Clinton asked for oil prices to be increased so that oil producing nations could use the oil proceeds to pay off their debts...

"The American public is paying off bad loans to bad countries made by bad bankers," stated the national security adviser.

jamesphogan.com

And from what I'm quickly perusing through, I don't personally have a problem with Velikovsky's theory that Venus and Earth were not originally in their current orbits and may have been "mid-wifed" by Jupiter and Saturn.

But I would have a problem in believing that Venus only recently arrived in its orbit during the dark ages. I mean, it may have been intellectually "dark" in Europe, but elsewhere on the planet, folks were quite "enlightened" (eg: Arab astronomers.. etc). And somehow I think they would have noticed a big planet moving past us like that...

But there is definitely logical evidence that civilization is not a recent event. One has only to examine the evidence of water erosion on the body portion of the Sphinx, to recognize that the Sahara was not always a desert, or that this erosion obviously must have occurred over considerable time BEFORE the time of the Egytians who relied on the Nile for their water.

Personally, I'm convinced the Sphinx is over 8,000 years old and that something tragic occurred on earth that ended one civilization and sent mankind back to square one, ala Noah..

Regards,

Ron



To: Tom Clarke who wrote (238)1/3/2001 12:02:41 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
Not to rehash that Velikovsky debate again, Charleymane, but here's the link to some of Hogan's observations on the origin of Venus:

jamesphogan.com

Now I'm not much of a astrophysicist, but it would seem that there are some major questions that the current analysis of Venus do not answer...

Most specifically imo, the one that discusses the temperature of Venus' atmosphere being slightly greater on the dark side, despite the fact that it's dark for 58 days in a row.

I'm certainly not ready to subscribe to this theory as fact, but it certainly causes me to think. Especially when folks like the uppity Carl Sagan are so quick to disparage it.

No one arrived at a new understanding of the world by thinking like everyone else.

Regards,

Ron