To: Noel de Leon who wrote (20849 ) 1/4/2001 11:50:34 AM From: Blaine K Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 29987 <It's nice that you point out one of the advantages of a democratic republic over a democracy by referring to Roe vrs. Wade. The founding fathers saw the advantages and disadvantages of democracy and tried to deal with them. The amendments to the constitution are attempts to improve on it.> I personally don't feel that Roe v. Wade makes a case for the advantages of a democratic republic over a democracy, but instead is a case of judicial overreach. Such overreach IS a CONSEQUENCE of our constitutional government, as is Bush's election. You are correct that amendments to the Constitution are attempts to improve the original, but alas often fall short. Income tax and prohibition are examples. Amendment is the process by which abortion could legitimately be made a federally protected right similar to gun ownership. To have regulation of such activity taken by nine judges from the states, where it belongs by federalist principle unless added to the Constitution by amendment, over the wishes of the American people, seems monstrous to me, but they did it, setting the precendent for judicial law-making of which the Florida Supreme Court is the latest practitioner. Thus, we have a messy system that disappoints all of us at some time or another. We truly do NOT have a democracy, but a republic. Ancient Athens is the only state that ever HAS had anything approaching a true democracy. The U.S. is the closest approximation since then. Anyone who says any modern state is a TRUE DEMOCRACY or can become one is ill-informed, since a TRUE DEMOCRACY would require all citizens to vote on all issues with absolutely no representatives elected. For the U.S. to be a TRUE DEMOCRACY I would have to consider and vote on sewage treatment issues that affect only Lubbock, Texas. No thanks. It would waste too much time, and probably turn out like Lenin's and Mao's perfect systems. I'll take our imperfect system instead. It has worked pretty well in the past, even though past performance doesn't guarantee future returns, and even though I continue to be represented by the same liberal in D.C. every damned election. At least I get her out of my neighborhood and she takes care of the sewage in Lubbock if there is a federal interest [and more and more often there is a federal interest], and leaves me free to destroy my money by investing in Globalstar.